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posted by janrinok on Tuesday May 29 2018, @04:53PM   Printer-friendly
from the jobs-for-everyone-else dept.

Trump Administration Makes 15,000 Additional H-2B Visas available

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-to-allow-another-15000-unskilled-foreign-workers-on-temporary-h-2b-visas-2018-05-26

The Department of Homeland Security said Friday it would provide businesses another 15,000 H-2B visas to bring low-skilled foreign workers to the U.S. this summer, offering a modest infusion to the popular program.

The number of visas available each year for seasonal work is capped by statute at 66,000, evenly divided between the summer and winter seasons. Congress declined to lift that cap during negotiations this spring. It did, however, give the secretary of homeland security authority to issue up to 69,000 more this summer if she determines there is sufficient need.

A range of businesses—including fisheries, landscapers and those in summer tourist spots—have complained about worker shortages and have been waiting to see if Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen will use that authority. But people who support restrictions on immigration, including some in the White House, argue that foreign workers drive down American wages and oppose additional visas.

Faced with a similar choice last summer, then-DHS Secretary John Kelly also provided an additional 15,000 visas but cast it as a one-time only move.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @04:26PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @04:26PM (#686330)

    Very good of you, sounds like your family is good people. That still doesn't change the fact that many many people don't have the same options, and it doesn't change the fact that many people on welfare do indeed need it. Yes some people are slackers who will coast by and abuse the system, but the numbers say those are a minority of the welfare recipients. Your anger about your own lot in life has torn away your compassion.

    All you see is your own situation and you apply a broad brush to people you don't even know. Fix that, because if you or your wife get sick or too old you just might end up on social assistance. The majority of welfare recipients eventually do pull themselves out of it, but you prefer to ignore the stats and let your anger and anecdotes rule.

  • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday May 30 2018, @04:58PM (3 children)

    by Gaaark (41) on Wednesday May 30 2018, @04:58PM (#686344) Journal

    "Yes some people are slackers who will coast by and abuse the system, but the numbers say those are a minority of the welfare recipients"

    I had neighbours who lived across the road from me at one time: i would come home at night on Friday and they'd be out drinking (2 families across the road). They'd drink all Saturday and Sunday.
    Monday morning i'd be heading off to work and there'd be beer bottles all over the lawns.

    Mike Harris got into government in Ontario and introduced 'Workfare': you get welfare, you work for you cheque. All of a sudden, they weren't drinking all weekend, they were cleaning up their yard and house, they put new shingles on their house.

    OMG, Mike Harris gets voted out for doing what he said he'd do and all of a sudden, they are drinking all weekend again.

    Do not tell me about compassion: i was willing to let my taxes go up in order to get these people living better and contributing.

    "The majority of welfare recipients eventually do pull themselves out of it, but you prefer to ignore the stats and let your anger and anecdotes rule."
    There is a lady who works(ed) with me who is bucking for a 'disability' so she can stop working because (as one of her family said on a phone call to my boss) "she is a piece of crap".
    She doesn't want to work for a living.

    Yes, there are some on welfare who do not want to be there, but there are a lot of 'welfare families' who begat welfare and in turn begat welfare.

    Don't give me Christian values, don't give me 'some people just can't': i knew a phlebidomide (sp?) baby guy who had no legs below the knee cap and no arms below the elbow: he worked a fulll time job and his writing was neater than mine (you should see this guy eat with a fork: fucking amazing, like the caterpillar guy lighting a cigarette in the movie "Freaks")

    There is too much welfare begetting welfare. We need 'workfare' again, methinks.

    "All you see is your own situation and you apply a broad brush to people you don't even know."
    My wife sees it (she's an Educational Assistant in a public school: she makes lunches for the kids whose parents can't be bothered to get out of bed or out of their drug/booze inspired stupor to make them one) and I see it.
    Lazy is lazy.
    We hire for attitude and train.
    Too many times, attitude is "I want hours (money) but i don't want to work them".

    Send us people with attitude to work and contribute. Too much it is "whuh? you want me to show up at 7:30am?????? whuh?"

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    --- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @08:40PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @08:40PM (#686470)

      You're ignorant, that is all there is to it.

      Here, this may help you understand the other side a little https://www.huffingtonpost.com/linda-tirado/why-poor-peoples-bad-decisions-make-perfect-sense_b_4326233.html?guccounter=1 [huffingtonpost.com]

      With such a high level of "personal responsibility" maybe you could try actually looking at the data, at the other countries doing things WAY better than the US, and understand that supporting your community and providing safety nets that keep people from complete destitution and hopelessness are GOOD THINGS!

      Your lack of compassion makes you a shitbird flying in a shitstorm, and people like you are ruining this country. You may be a hard worker, but you're a judgmental shit supporting legislation that makes you feel better/superior while making communities worse. Support universal health care, support a UBI (or similar) that doesn't put people in a poverty trap, stop worrying about welfare fraud and worry more about corporate / government fraud which impacts our society way more.

      Your anecdotes can be found everywhere, but you ignore the overwhelming majority of people using welfare as intended. You are simply a fuckhead who wants to justify your own anger. Life is hard, so you shit on people you feel superior to in order to feel better.

      You shitbags have ruined this country along with your shitlord Reagan. Your "fiscal responsibility" policies were bass-ackwards and have been tanking our country to support the rich. But oh noooo, you focus on the minority of dirtbags trying to defraud welfare. You are THE WORST! I'll take Joe Asshole smoking/drinking/gambling over your hateful ass. Oddly enough I bet there is quite an overlap between the ideologies of Joe and yourself. Think about that moron.

      • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday May 30 2018, @11:58PM (1 child)

        by Gaaark (41) on Wednesday May 30 2018, @11:58PM (#686541) Journal

        Oh shit, you are stupid.

        I give examples from Ontario, Canada and you say "the other countries doing things WAY better than the US" and you say I'm ignorant. Yeah. I'm ignorant, lol. (Typical American response: there are NO other countries but the goob ol' UbSAy!

        From your link: she says she got pregnant while living in a motel. THERE'S A GOOD CHOICE! WAY TO EXTEND THE POVERTY! (My wife and i planned (heavily planned) our first baby: we made sure we had money in the bank and good jobs before we even CONSIDERED having kids)

        "Broccoli is intimidating!" Yeah...cut it up, put it in a pot with some water and boil/steam it for a few minutes... OMG, so hard!

        "I smoke. It's expensive. I am always exhausted. When i am too tired to walk one more step, I can always smoke and go for another hour" Sounds like my wife and I, except we don't smoke. Why? It's EXPENSIVE! We are always exhausted. When we are too tired to walk one more step, we keep going because our son likes Special Olympics and has many friends there. We keep going because he needs things like that.

        Let me go on!
        "I make a lot of poor financial decisions. None of them matter, in the long term. I will never not be poor, so what does it matter if I don’t pay a thing and a half this week instead of just one thing?"
        We can't afford too many poor financial decisions: we don't want to be poor, so we scrimp and save and do without (remember the cigarettes and how expensive they are?) so we won't be poor, because we CAN'T be. Our son would be so far out of whack if we didn't save and get him his gluten free food...let me tell you; you don't want to be around him when he gets a lot of gluten. So we don't smoke, i've quit drinking (doing fairly well there, spank me very much) because we just can't.

        "Poverty is bleak and cuts off your long-term brain. It’s why you see people with four different babydaddies instead of one."
        Sheeeeit, motherfuck... can't even do this one.... hate that whole babbydaddy shit. Be an adult.

        "You shitbags have ruined this country along with your shitlord Reagan. Your "fiscal responsibility" policies were bass-ackwards and have been tanking our country to support the rich. But oh noooo, you focus on the minority of dirtbags trying to defraud welfare.....Think about that moron."

        Again, MORON, i gave you clues that i am Canadian and you, IGNORANT MORON missed them completely.
        I am not against welfare. I am not against social support.

        I AM against big business getting more than it should and destroying the world like it has (which is why i started voting Green party and did again IN THE ONTARIO (CANADA) PROVINCIAL ELECTION this year).

        I am also against ignorant morons getting pregnant without any planning and then soaking the system because their 4 babbydaddy's won't pay child support.
        I am against welfare for nothing: people collecting welfare could do SOMETHING!, even if it is just picking up garbage off the street for fuchia's sake. Get them out of the house, socializing and getting exercise... get them up in the morning, get them working instead of drinking and make them tired at night BUT THEY ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING!

        I am also against ignorant fucks like you who use poor examples to support their case and then CALL ME IGNORANT.
        (You should look up Canada in the map.... it's there. See if you can find it! I bet you can! Go on... give it a try some time. If you can find the USA on the map, here's a hint: we're just North of you.)
        Does that help?)

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        --- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 05 2018, @09:02AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 05 2018, @09:02AM (#688780)

          You seem a little angry.

          And what is your solution to poor financial decisions? Having government come in and run people's lives? Maybe we can have "Family Finance Assistance Dept." so people don't need to make decisions and fall flat on their faces. Like in prison? And yes, lots of people with poor self-control like prison because it takes away uncertainty and their shit planning skills.

          Yes, I agree with you. Most of the people that are *really* poor in rich nations have made some bad decisions. But some of those decisions are bad with 20/20 hindsight.
          And sometimes bad shit happens. People also do get used to shit and give up on anything better. In other words, sometimes it's more complicated than the simple answers in your head.