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Study Puts Puerto Rico Death Toll From Hurricane Maria Near 5,000
Perhaps 5,000 people died in Puerto Rico in 2017 for reasons related to September's Hurricane Maria, according to a study that dismisses the official death toll of 64 as "a substantial underestimate."
A research team led by scientists at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health didn't simply attempt to count dead bodies in the wake of the powerful storm. Instead, they surveyed randomly chosen households and asked the occupants about their experiences.
From that approach, they concluded that between Sept. 20 and Dec. 31, 2017, there were 4,645 "excess deaths" — that is, deaths that would not have occurred if the island hadn't been plunged into a prolonged disaster following the devastating storm.
But the estimate isn't as precise as the figure implies. The researchers calculate there is a 95 percent likelihood the death toll was somewhere between about 800 and 8,500 people. They say about 5,000 is a likely figure.
Mortality in Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria (open, DOI: 10.1056/NEJMsa1803972) (DX)
(Score: 4, Insightful) by fadrian on Wednesday May 30 2018, @05:49AM (8 children)
Somehow, I think that the Harvard School of Public Health have a bit more statistical credibility than you. Show us your error bars and justify them, if you have any. Otherwise, as usual, you're just blathering.
That is all.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by frojack on Wednesday May 30 2018, @06:12AM (2 children)
Show me the graves.
Where are the death certificates?
PR isn't exactly the wild west where you shovel someone under and tie two random sticks together for a cross.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @07:25PM (1 child)
WTF is your problem? Is it some being scary liberal conspiracy to make you feel bad about Puerto Rico? Or can you simply not handle the fact that Trump fucked it up YET AGAIN? Or lets go for the gold star, is it simply that PR is full of brown people?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday May 31 2018, @12:29PM
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday May 30 2018, @09:35AM (4 children)
Why are you ignoring that spread? That didn't come from jmorris, it came from the Harvard School of Public Health, which you claim has "statistical credibility".
(Score: 2) by fadrian on Thursday May 31 2018, @01:19AM (3 children)
I'm not ignoring the spread. They actually have one; jmorris didn't.
You know, hanging around with conservatives seems to cause bad things to happen to people - look at half of Trump's staff and at Rosanne's crew. If I were you, I'd rethink your beliefs before they lead to similar outcomes for you. I don't think they actively try to harm folks around them (that's for the people of color they govern), but once you promote yourself as an asshole, there's just that much less room for cover.
That is all.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday May 31 2018, @04:43AM (2 children)
Yet here you are. The point is that these statistics come out of the box broken with an order of magnitude difference between high and low. jmorris doesn't have to provide his own deceptive statistics in order to note that.
(Score: 2) by fadrian on Thursday May 31 2018, @09:39AM (1 child)
Maybe you don't know anything about statistics and error bars, but my MS was just about nothing but stats. And, yes, studies with those kinds of error bars can be valid. More importantly, in most cases the ultimate results show something close to the mean of the set of stats - not results below or above the error bars. Your administration is LYING about people's deaths. Preventable deaths, as PR got much less aid from FEMA than FL or TX in their storms. What the hell does that moron have to do before you stop supporting him? Start WWIII? Or would that be OK, too?
That is all.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday May 31 2018, @12:39PM