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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday May 30 2018, @11:31AM   Printer-friendly
from the nearly-all? dept.

The space simulation game Star Citizen has found a new way to extract money from the crowd:

Crowdfunded space simulation game Star Citizen has launched its $27,000 (£20,000) Legatus Pack, which includes nearly all its spacecraft plus extras.

Only players who have already spent $1,000 in the game can access the pack.

Cloud Imperium, the creators of Star Citizen, has received more than $200m in crowdfunding since launching a Kickstarter campaign for it in 2012.

According to its website it has more than two million players, although the game itself is still in development.

Previously: Star Citizen Reaches $100 Million in Crowdfunding, Alpha 2.0 Released
Star Citizen Developers Sued by Crytek


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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @12:51PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @12:51PM (#686231)

    Holy crap.

    Take a look at the roadmap [robertsspaceindustries.com] here. No sign of another system being rolled out besides Stanton. The cynical joke is that the best way to make money in the 'verse right now is by rescuing people from the Levski fly trap. (If you land on Levksi, good luck getting out. Like 3/4s of the server instances are bugged, and you'll just fall through the planetoid when you get in the elevator to go up to the hanger level.) Olisar isn't much better since you have to try about 2 or 3 airlocks before you find one that will open. No female avatar until 2019, but I think we all know that it's only transsexual freaks bitching about that, because cisgender women are perfectly fine waking up in the easy hab and seeing a package between their avatar's legs.

    I can't imagine what on earth concierge (what is it, over $1k?) backers were thinking. I'm starting to feel uneasy about the measly $100 I've thrown at the game (started with an Aurora but melted it and upgraded to a Cutlass). $27k?! lol!

    The hype prints money!

    (If you think I'm being critical, check out Spectrum where the forums are! Endless bitching and whinging about griefing vs. legitimate piracy, pay to win, where's my Banu Merchantman?!, blablabla.)

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by zocalo on Wednesday May 30 2018, @01:52PM (4 children)

    by zocalo (302) on Wednesday May 30 2018, @01:52PM (#686255)
    I think there's a kind of Stockholm effect at work, although I'm sure someone will be able to provide the proper term for this kind of self-delusion in due course. While I'm sure there are still some true-believers out there, I think there are also a lot who have gotten in so far that they are simply no longer capable of considering that the project might fail because to do so would mean admitting to themselves that they have made a serious misjudgment - exactly the same scenario that leads people to send more and more money in the hope of receiving their millions from that Nigerian Prince. I bailed with a full refund a couple of years ago (CIG is bang to rights on this under EU consumer protection laws, FYI), and even though they finally managed to get v3.0 out (missing many expected features and about 18 months after a much more impressive release was expected) it's been a continual train wreck ever since. Kind of fun to watch, with the bitching and ruthless shouting down of anyone that doesn't toe the line, no matter how valid their point is, just the icing on the cake, but also kinda depressing at the thought of the much less impressive but still highly enjoyable game that might actually have been if Chris Robert's inability to say "good enough" hadn't got in the way.

    Personally, I think they're financially screwed and are going to have to either cut and run giving thanks to the Crowdfunding God of No-Refunds or try and sell a stake (and transfer at least some control) to a traditional publisher or bank real soon now. Can't wait to see how the true believers in "Chris don't need no stinking publishers" and "perfection takes time" spin that one. They've never come across as particularly skilled on financial shell games either - remember the advance they took on some UK government subsidies to pay the rent or some such a year or so back? - so it's also quite possible that this is a Hail Mary because some bills are due, they don't have enough cash onhand to pay them, and need a quick infusion. Oh, sure, they probably have some extra cash tied-up in the bank, but their revenue seems to have levelled off - and may even have peaked - at a level that seems quite likely to be below their expenditure (four offices, multiple sub-contractors totalling 300-400 staff, IIRC? Current revenue [google.com] is about $35m/yr, total employment cost is typically 150-175% of salary - do the math), which would mean they are now running on borrowed time with little hope of getting anywhere close to their so called "minimally viable product" initial release. Because a half-baked v1.0 product that's missing many of the features promised what will be getting on for ten years ago is somehow going to result in a massive cash infusion from both new and existing backers to drive the next development and deliver the remaining features. Yeah, right. I'd say keep drinking the Kool-Aid, but since this is CIG's Kool-Aid while it might look tasty you can bet it's going to be flat if it ever eventually arrives.
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    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @02:24PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @02:24PM (#686276)

      the proper term for this kind of self-delusion in due course

      sunk cost fallacy?

      • (Score: 2) by zocalo on Wednesday May 30 2018, @02:42PM

        by zocalo (302) on Wednesday May 30 2018, @02:42PM (#686283)
        Also close, but seems to miss the mark just enough in the same way that the Stockholm effect and Dunning-Kruger do that makes me suspect there might be a more specific and appropriate scientic term for "drinking the Kool-Aid". Perhaps it's just "Cultism", but psychologically that seems to be a generic catch-all that spans multiple potential reasons for joing a cult.
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    • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday May 30 2018, @04:31PM

      by Gaaark (41) on Wednesday May 30 2018, @04:31PM (#686334) Journal

      Grepolis seems to have done the same thing: create for the people spending big money and losing in the long run.

      https://en.grepolis.com/ [grepolis.com]

      feed to the big spenders and lose the players.
      Oh well, if you have the money, go for it but you better also learn: if not, you'll be spending big money just keeping from losing.

      It was a great game: one of the best i've played. Then just got lost in money. Spend or you can't do this. Spend or you can't do that.

      Too bad.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @11:14PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @11:14PM (#686533)

      Are you describing Second Life Syndrome?

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @06:18PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @06:18PM (#686393)

    Regarding the forums - to be fair, in most games the well considered and articulated posts are overwhelmed by those of the hysterical minority on either end of the spectrum. (Supporters vs Detractors) One sets off the other in a recursion of diatribe diarrhea, and soon enough that's all anybody sees.

    Specifically for Star Citizen, I've noticed that many of the most vocal do have good thoughts and opinions... but in order to be "heard" above the noise they post them in the most inflammatory and aggressive/abusive ways. Then they complain when they get shouted down or have their forum threads locked by moderators.

    Lots of good people, lots of good thoughts, sadly many have the manners and delivery of an over-caffeinated 5-year-old.