A judge has proposed a nationwide programme to file down the points of kitchen knives as a solution to the country’s soaring knife crime epidemic.
Last week in his valedictory address, retiring Luton Crown Court Judge Nic Madge spoke of his concern that carrying a knife had become routine in some circles and called on the Government to ban the sale of large pointed kitchen knives.
[...] He said laws designed to reduce the availability of weapons to young would-be offenders had had “almost no effect”, since the vast majority had merely taken knives from a cutlery drawer.
[...] He asked: “But why we do need eight-inch or ten-inch kitchen knives with points?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday June 01 2018, @06:09AM (19 children)
Sorry, am I reading this right? There was no violent crime in the UK, anywhere, until non-British/Irish/Scottish people started coming in? ...how in the name of Madokami's metaphysical menstrual cup did this get upmodded?!
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 5, Informative) by Sulla on Friday June 01 2018, @06:17AM
https://www.theguardian.com/membership/2017/nov/28/child-knife-deaths-in-england-and-wales-set-for-nine-year-peak [theguardian.com]
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(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 01 2018, @08:12AM (4 children)
Glasgow traditionally had massive knife crime. [theguardian.com] My generation carried knives - I used a 6" survival knife on camping weekends from the age of about 9. This latest stab-fest is entirely down to elevated violence introduced into black communities by Somali and Congolese migrants.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 01 2018, @11:08AM (3 children)
-1 Troll mod is -1 Complete Denial on the moderators part.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 01 2018, @06:43PM (2 children)
So what you're saying is we need to just lock up the violent natives and the violent immigrants? I'm shocked.
I love using anecdotes to guide national policy! Someone should tell all the charities that poor and sick people tend to have problems so it is better to not help them unless you get infected / dragged down! /s
You xenophobic turds need help. Better yet maybe we should put you all into forced labor camps before you turn into Nazis 2.0!! /s Fight bigotry with bigotry amirite?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 01 2018, @07:33PM
I've got a better idea. We make you bleeding heart open borders retards live in the shithole enclaves that your stupid policies create. It doesn't take long for close contact with the objects of your affection to turn even the most deluded liberal into a hardcore racist.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 02 2018, @04:35PM
How about "Hate Facts"? [theguardian.com]
People who can't stop stabbing each other and those who apologise for them need help as the projection and slander from some quarters perfectly illustrates.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 01 2018, @08:59AM
That's not what he said. He said there wasn't a "crime problem", i.e. there was only a regular level of crime.
Of course all crime is a problem, but that's not how the term "a crime problem" is used.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 01 2018, @01:35PM
It's been downhill since the Normans.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by FatPhil on Friday June 01 2018, @01:49PM (1 child)
However, in Finland, the change in crime with the change in demographics has been **ENORMOUS** (yes, that level of emphasis is needed). When I first lived there in the early 90s, it wouldn't be too extreme to say that there was no crime. Even minor things were front page headlines. For some types of violent crime, rates have gone up by well over an order of magnitude. Where I used to live, Espoo, a year without any reported rapes used to be an unexceptional thing, now a month without one would be unusual. And yes, the perpetrators do reinforce the stereotypes.
Strangely, though, as the non-violent crimes of vandalism and graffiti rose at the same time, from just observing he environs, and the people within it, I became 100% sure that it was Finns who were behind this increase, not the immigrants. They were all angry young males at that, and presumably they were angry at the increased immigration, because reasons.
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 01 2018, @05:50PM
I'd say you covered the reasons quite well.
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Friday June 01 2018, @02:35PM (4 children)
Well, sure! Clearly all this crime is the fault of those darned Normans! No, wait, it's the Anglo-Saxon and Danish invader's fault! No, it's the bloody Romans! No, wait, it's the Celts that moved in during the Iron Age, which is why we needed those hill forts!
Well, I guess they're kind of right, though: If there are no people in Britain, then no people will commit crimes in Britain.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 01 2018, @02:53PM (2 children)
You mock but welfare is the modern day Danegeld. Doesn't seem to be working this time either does it? So how about a full refund for however many millions in tax we've paid over the last two decades for the failures and lies of successive governments on immigration policy?
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Friday June 01 2018, @07:15PM (1 child)
I don't know how it works in the UK, but at least in the US the immigrants in question are eligible for no welfare benefits whatsoever.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by jmorris on Friday June 01 2018, @08:06PM
Officially. Unofficially, meaning in the real world, in most places where illegals congregate it is illegal to ask an applicant's immigration status so they get the full panoply of welfare state benefits. Then they often buy a second fake ID and dip again using a co-conspirator's address.. as someone there uses their address for their second helping. Then they squat out an anchor baby and it legally gets everything, including the EITC bonanza because now they will report just enough of their income to qualify for the max payout.
Illegals almost never produce as much economic benefit as they cost in total welfare benefits. Businesses hiring illegals are simply transferring that cost to the taxpayers. We should therefore tax the hiring of an illegal at a rate sufficient to recapture that expense and turn the IRS loose on any who refuse to pay up. If a business really can pay an $8-12/hr tax on illegal labor then perhaps it really is a job Americans won't do vs what we have now, jobs we won't allow Americans to do because of minimum wage and other laws plus the welfare state discouraging work.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 01 2018, @06:20PM
Nitpick, the initial Celtic migrations were late Bronze Age, that is, assuming you can get them to make their minds up as to what actually constitutes a Celt in the first place (culture vs genetics).
As I've said before, these bloody Islands have gone downhill since those bloody Beaker People immigrants, coming over here, bringing their 'forn ways' and, err, beakers...
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday June 01 2018, @04:26PM (1 child)
Technically Irish and Scottish are subsets of British. The British Isles is the entire island chain. So pick one of
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday June 01 2018, @08:07PM
Ye ken well what I mean, lad. Yer bum's oot the windae wiv that one.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 01 2018, @06:38PM (1 child)
Because one of our resident turds negatively mentioned brown people. Upmod for the good of Western civilization!!!!
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will Azuma realize the sarcastic nature of my words this time? ok ok /s just for uuuuuuuu
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday June 01 2018, @07:07PM
Man, if you're that desperate for attention without having anything to say that you have to name drop, I'll go ahead and throw you a bone. Next time just say something inflammatory and absurd.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.