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posted by janrinok on Saturday June 02 2018, @04:25PM   Printer-friendly
from the concentrating-on-the-serious-crimes dept.

Submitted via IRC for SoyCow8093

Internet provider Grande Communications is requesting assistance from U.S. Marshals to serve piracy tracking company IP-Echelon. As part of the RIAA lawsuit, the ISP wants to find out more about a scam where IP-Echelon's name was abused by scammers to extract payments. Thus far, however, it has been unable to reach the company at its Hollywood office.

They used the name of piracy-tracking firm IP-Echelon and several major copyright holders, including HBO, to demand settlements for allegedly pirated content.

The DMCA scam was pretty convincing. The emails lacked IP-Echelon’s PGP signature but were good enough to fool some Internet providers into forwarding them. If anything, it revealed that these type of notices should be carefully vetted.

While we haven’t seen any reports of these fraudulent notices since, Internet provider Grande Communications has taken an interest in the matter, in preparation for its piracy liability case against the RIAA.

This case relies on DMCA notices sent by IP-Echelon competitor Rightscorp. The ISP is therefore eager to hear out IP-Echelon to find out more about the issue, noting that they received the scam emails as well.

“Grande has also received IP-Echelon infringement notices, which include both authenticated, PGP-signed infringement notices from IP-Echelon, as well as fake, non-PGP-signed notices which falsely claim to be from IP-Echelon,” Grande informed the court late last week.

Source: https://torrentfreak.com/isp-wants-us-marshals-to-help-serve-piracy-tracking-outfit-180528/


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 02 2018, @05:08PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 02 2018, @05:08PM (#687745)

    I kinda think the US Marshalls probably should get involved. Drag their asses into court, and demand some explanations.

    No, the real problem is the ISP. Until we liberate ourselves from them, the kangaroo courts will give us nothing.

  • (Score: 2) by frojack on Saturday June 02 2018, @05:12PM (1 child)

    by frojack (1554) on Saturday June 02 2018, @05:12PM (#687747) Journal

    Nonsense. That is entirely orthogonal to the issue here.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 02 2018, @08:29PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 02 2018, @08:29PM (#687801)

      You are wrong. The ISP is the issue. They are the internet policeman, doing the state's dirty work, that we must disarm. I don't care how it is done, just that it must be done.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 02 2018, @05:36PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 02 2018, @05:36PM (#687756)

    There is no clear way to go ISP free.

    You are assuming everyone will help each other out. That is not true.

    Mesh is the only thing that is sorta promising going ISP free. But that has problems. Big problems. Let us assume for a minute that everyone has a mesh node. Sweet right? Well at least until you want to talk to someone on another network. Hey I know we will move all of the big boys onto that network. OK. Who wants to be a peer with netflix? OK assume you can solve that somehow. What about your neighbor 3 doors over that decides 'torrent the whole internet!' and swamping everyone? Poorly thought out peer will wreck bandwidth. This is solvable but needs to be thought out. What about when (not if) someone figures out how to hijack the firmware of half the net? What if your neighbor decides kiddie porn is the way to go and routes it all through your router? Maybe you are OK with it but many probably would not be.

    All of these things are problems today. Right now. But now you can add in the fact the ISP can not kick off bad actors. You just have to 'deal with it'.

    The ISP model sucks because competition is low. In the late 90s I had 50+ ISPs I could choose from all the way from free advert subsidized to some forms of fiber. Now I have 3. What changed? We let the people who own the wires run the ISP.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 02 2018, @07:47PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 02 2018, @07:47PM (#687795)

      All of these things are problems today. Right now.

      Yes, that is why we should be developing the tech to *route around the damage* instead of arguing bullshit. But all I'm getting from everybody here is "man will never fly"...