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posted by cmn32480 on Thursday June 14 2018, @01:06PM   Printer-friendly
from the golden-rules-make-golden-fools dept.

Once again the flailing Australian National Broadband Network is in the news with a couple in Melbourne being quoted up to 1.2 million dollars to connect to the NBN. The primary reason for this is the the house in question is seven kilometres of fibre would be needed to connect the property. With the copper network being switched off around Australian, even in places where it is still viable, the only option is to switch to the NBN unless a competing network already exists. The NBN has stated that it can cost $30,000 to run fibre for a "few hundred metres". It is getting to the point where it can be cheaper just to move house if the internet is bad.


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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Pino P on Thursday June 14 2018, @06:03PM (5 children)

    by Pino P (4721) on Thursday June 14 2018, @06:03PM (#693055) Journal

    Why should the rest of us have to subsidize your rural living?

    Because rural people's food production subsidizes your urban eating of food.

    Also, why must we always look to quasi-governmental agencies to do one particular thing?

    Because it's criminal trespass for anybody but the government to bring utility lines across nonsubscribers' land.

    Hint: You don't need 100 Mbps, and it doesn't need to be wired.

    It has to be high-volume because of the sheer size of the files that farmers use nowadays. In the transcript of episode 6 of Mozilla's IRL podcast [irlpodcast.org], Mark Erickson said:

    They create these files that they need to then upload to their crop advisor and they would start the download at 6 o’clock at night and at 6 o’clock in the morning, it wasn’t finished yet because it was so slow or it had timed out and they had to restart it. They would take hours and hours as it was actually cheaper and quicker for them to drive it 50 or 60 miles and drive back.

    This means it has to be either wired or high-volume wireless. The way wireless Internet carriers' explanation of the bandwidth caps on their plans make it sound, the laws of physics preclude high-volume wireless Internet service to desktop or laptop computers.

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  • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 14 2018, @06:56PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 14 2018, @06:56PM (#693109)

    You need more money to pay for your lifestyle? Charge more money for your food.

    Are you starting to see materialize here a picture of how society can organize itself strictly through voluntary exchange?

    • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday June 14 2018, @09:39PM (3 children)

      by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Thursday June 14 2018, @09:39PM (#693195)

      ...society can organize itself strictly through voluntary exchange?

      Go on, tell us about that violently imposed monopoly again.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 15 2018, @04:37AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 15 2018, @04:37AM (#693331)

        Aud government passes law starting only the POS they built can be used.
        People bypass said POS and build their own GD telecommunications.
        Gov fines the naughty purple who dared fight the gov
        the free and mighty purple me with awesome cheap net access and horrible auto correct give the gov the bid
        the government officiant appointed natty people in blue arrest the aberrants

        there is your violence. Peaceful high speed Internet living geeks throw in jail by th Jr wicked nbn baking government

        • (Score: 2) by Pino P on Friday June 15 2018, @01:10PM

          by Pino P (4721) on Friday June 15 2018, @01:10PM (#693461) Journal

          People bypass said POS and build their own GD telecommunications.
          Gov fines the naughty purple who dared fight the gov

          In your ancap scenario, the government would only be doing the bidding of the non-subscribers over whose land the physical medium for "their own GD telecommunications" was pulled.

        • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday June 16 2018, @06:58AM

          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 16 2018, @06:58AM (#693873) Journal

          Peaceful high speed Internet living geeks throw in jail by th Jr wicked nbn baking government

          This might be an insightful comment - but I haven't got a clue because I don't know what it means. The usual language for debate here is any recognisable dialect of English. This isn't.