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Facebook has consistently denied allegations that it listens to its users' conversations through their phone's microphone, but a new document suggests the tech giant has not ruled out doing so in the future.
Facebook users have been sharing circumstantial evidence for several years that suggests Facebook snoops on their private conversations in order to deliver more personalised ads. In April, US lawmakers finally brought the concerns to CEO Mark Zuckerberg in a hearing about data misuse on the firm's platform.
The social media firm released a 454-page document this week to follow up with questions posed to Mr Zuckerberg, after he was criticised for evading some of the most important ones.
Documents can be found here:
Zuckerberg Testimony
Responses to Commerce Committee
Responses to Judiciary Committee
[Editor's Note: the two response documents are 229 and 225 pages, respectively for a total of 454 pages.]
(Score: 3, Informative) by idiot_king on Friday June 15 2018, @11:59PM (7 children)
Again, we know what to expect from anything organized by Capitalist ideals - you're not a person as much as a point of capital extraction. It's only surprising because we live under the myth that corporations obey laws - when in reality, they create laws for the little guys to obey while the fat cats have methods of extraction that are only guarded by their power (bought, of course, by their capital).
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 16 2018, @12:16AM (6 children)
I care not one whit for FB. They are in my block lists. However, this is just a smear campaign. "why have you not committed to not beating your wife?" This is just simple smear campaign tactics used to take someone down. FB fucked up they did not make sure 'it was her turn'. Now they are grooming zuck to be ousted and the clintons to be in charge of it. Either by proxy or directly. I have seen the idea floated a few times now.
To think 'capitalists' are doing this is as delusional as what I just wrote. Most people do not follow the law unless they are scared they will be caught. No? Then why do you post under a pseudonym?
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 16 2018, @12:54AM (1 child)
The capitalist mindset is one of greed and we are literally surrounded by that fact. We are just lucky that most people arent horrible, but the corporate culture is starting to become normal and accepted. It is the new aristocracy.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 16 2018, @01:11AM
We are just lucky that most people arent horrible
Since when? Work retail for a few months and you will quickly understand what you just said is a lie. You even suspect it with your "corporate culture is starting to become normal and accepted".
It is the new aristocracy.
They have always been around. Do you really think the east india company or rome was something that happened recently? How about a bit further back. "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God" Mathew 19:24.
"peak capitalism" is a meme designed to make you think you are smart and others are stupid to let you dismiss ideas out of hand. You are being manipulated into an opinion that is poorly thought out that lets you justify stealing from others. They call fools like you 'useful idiots' manipulated and safe in your poor ideas that fail when applied to your real life. Like I said most people are not good people. They only are as good as they can get away with.
Hell, you post AC to protect yourself. Why? Because you do not want people to know what you are saying on the internet. Why? Because justice of the mob is a real thing.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Saturday June 16 2018, @01:34AM (3 children)
You might have a point - if the Cambridge Analytica scandal had never happened. Facebook crossed a line, and you seem to have the attitude that the lines don't exist.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 16 2018, @04:30AM (2 children)
(not the same AC).
Nah the main thing is just the Democrats and gang (pro Democrat mainstream media etc) are pissed off that Trump won and they are looking for someone else other themselves to blame. They were trying to blame racists, the electoral college but since a BLACK guy won TWICE with the same racists and the same electoral college they had to find someone else....
Fact is before Trump won there was even talk that Facebook was biased against the Republicans and conservatives:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2016/05/18/conservatives-stress-thought-diversity-facebook/84550870/ [usatoday.com]
https://gizmodo.com/former-facebook-workers-we-routinely-suppressed-conser-1775461006 [gizmodo.com]
https://gizmodo.com/facebook-employees-asked-mark-zuckerberg-if-they-should-1771012990 [gizmodo.com]
And they most probably were.
Secondly, FB had no mens rea in the Cambridge Analytica case: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-cambridge-analytica-factbox/factbox-who-is-cambridge-analytica-and-what-did-it-do-idUSKBN1GW07F [reuters.com]
Thirdly, most of the data collected was what FB users should expect to be collected from FB (e.g. everything they post, where they are, everything that their friends would know and they would know about their friends, etc). Only in a few cases were user to user private messages collected and that was from their opt-in: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/13/revealed-aleksandr-kogan-collected-facebook-users-direct-messages [theguardian.com]
The sad thing is Trump might win again if the Democrats continue not addressing the real reasons why they lost. You may not believe that could happen because of opinion polls etc, but I remember very distinctly in 2016 there were zillions of polls saying Clinton would win. Trump has actually been DELIVERING what a lot of conservatives want.
FWIW Clinton was a crap candidate. And would actually have been worse than Trump from certain perspectives (e.g. the people living in the Middle East)- for example Trump actually tried to get USA to stop overthrowing Syria and focus on ISIS. Even to work with the Russians and Syrian Gov to do so. But every time he tried to do stuff like that, somehow conveniently "Assad starts gassing civilians"... In contrast Clinton was so happy to kill Gaddafi and screw up Libya. She would have gleefully helped to screw up Syria.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday June 16 2018, @03:16PM (1 child)
I do believe that you are awake!
Trump win in 2020? I'm not willing to commit to that prediction, but you're right about one thing. If the Dems want to win, they need to come up with SOMEONE with a clue. History, especially recent history, tells us that the incumbent has to be a total screwup to lose. Even Bush won re-election!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 16 2018, @04:24PM