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US leaving UN Human Rights Council -- 'a cesspool of political bias'
US Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley announced the United States is withdrawing from the UN Human Rights Council Tuesday, accusing the body of bias against US ally Israel and a failure to hold human rights abusers accountable. The move, which the Trump administration has threatened for months, came down one day after the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights slammed the separation of children from their parents at the US-Mexico border as "unconscionable."
Speaking from the State Department, where she was joined by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Haley defended the move to withdraw from the council, saying US calls for reform were not heeded. "Human rights abusers continue to serve on, and be elected to, the council," said Haley, listing US grievances with the body. "The world's most inhumane regimes continue to escape its scrutiny, and the council continues politicizing scapegoating of countries with positive human rights records in an attempt to distract from the abusers in its ranks."
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @08:34PM (65 children)
You throw SJW around so often it is meaningless. Just like Chicken Little and The Boy Who Cried Wolf.
Maybe it's time for you to update your routine?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by digitalaudiorock on Wednesday June 20 2018, @08:50PM (47 children)
SJW was meaningless the first time it was used. The far right in has gone so bat shit nuts that the have their own fucking language that doesn't make sense to people who actually think.
I never really got it at any level...even why being a warrior for "social justice" (whatever that means) would even have a bad connotation. I guess "brutal fucking dictator" is more "in" these days? Whatever.
(Score: 3, Flamebait) by jmorris on Wednesday June 20 2018, @09:04PM (37 children)
1. For a meaningless term all the right people sure do instantly know when they have been insulted. It works.
2. They SJWs themselves named themselves. We just weaponized it back on them by flipping it to a term of ridicule.
3. Social Justice is a contradiction in terms. None will debate me on that because it can't be debated rationally, it intended only as an emotional appeal. And if anyone thinks otherwise I'd suggest obtaining a copy of Thomas Sowell's The Quest for Cosmic Justice and save yourself some pain. However I'm cruel enough to deliver the pain if someone just wants some.
WHO WANTS SOME?
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @09:33PM (1 child)
So youre a raging ball of hate. Got it, moving on.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:06PM
It's all they have.
They defend Trump's actions. They can't beat us in a debate. So, they invent a Strawman-Justice-Warrior and debate whatever nonsense they project onto it.
Notice they're never responding to something someone actually said here.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by digitalaudiorock on Wednesday June 20 2018, @09:42PM
Wow...rich. The fact that you think any of that means shit says it all. I've got one: Go fuck yourself. Can you figure out who I'm insulting?
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @10:08PM (24 children)
Thomas Sowell? Um, jmorris, you know, he's black! What exact kind of n*********** kyke are you?
(Score: 2, Troll) by jmorris on Wednesday June 20 2018, @11:03PM (23 children)
So? There is no inconsistency between rejecting blank slate "every racial group (which doesn't even exist according to $current_year doctrine... until you aren't meeting your non-existent hiring quota) is exactly the same as every other in every statistically meaningful way" idiocy and recognizing excellence, which is rare in every population, wherever it occurs. You confuse race realism with racism. Racism is a made up silly word that didn't even exist a few short decades ago. It does sadden me that Dr. Sowell has yet to abandon the NeverTrump dead end and get on board the MAGA train, but he will get there.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @11:43PM (19 children)
That's rich.
(Score: 3, Informative) by jmorris on Thursday June 21 2018, @12:23AM (17 children)
Too bad history agrees with me.
The Ugly, Fascinating History Of The Word 'Racism' [npr.org] I assume you trust NPR, right? Guy who coined the word sounds like a total asshole.
Or Chart: frequency of the word "Racism" in the NYT over time
Thanks for playing, better luck next time.
p.s. Google is biased and full of bullshit but still useful to look things up before you post your ignorance to the world.
(Score: 4, Informative) by jmorris on Thursday June 21 2018, @12:24AM
Crap, something is hosed in the second link. Trying again with preview!
Chart: Frequency of the word racism in the New York Times [reddit.com]
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @01:26AM (8 children)
God I love how often your own citations backfire on you.
"Racism is a made up silly word that didn't even exist a few short decades ago"
So a few short decades does not make a century, and every single word humanity uses is "made up". You are a jackass, you are wrong, and "race realism"? Jesus, just admit your a bigoted piece of shit and maybe you can begin reconstructing your psyche.
(Score: 2, Flamebait) by jmorris on Thursday June 21 2018, @01:41AM
The first ref was just to absolutely nail down the first use of the word. Notice from the second link that it was as quickly forgotten after that first utterance and didn't appear at all until around WWII and wasn't in common usage until the "Cultural Revolution" in the 1960's. That makes it a pretty new word to be the basis for our current State Religion.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:10AM (6 children)
Ten or twelve decades are indeed just a few short decades. As opposed to 200 decades ago, when the Romans still held power. Is there some power in the word century for you?
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:15AM
Yes, when someone makes an assertion about some modern liberal conspiracy to use the word "racist" as some political tool for *reasons* and totally fails on the timeline.
I dont need to insult your intelligence though, you do a good enough job on your own.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by aristarchus on Thursday June 21 2018, @06:24AM (4 children)
I am only here to down-mod both the despicable jmorris, and the deplorable Runaway. They both know why. They are both products of the lack of choice by women, or that is to say, they are missed abortions. But that is pretty obvious from their posting. I sometimes think, that if jmorris, or Runaway, either of them, really, could develop the capacity for reason, you know, rational thought, and could go from accepted factes about the world, to the premise that one ought nought have sex outside one's own species? A bridge too far?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:13PM (3 children)
https://funnyjunk.com/Dr+trumps+butthurt+salve+and+cream/funny-pictures/6152734/ [funnyjunk.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @06:09PM (2 children)
I don't see any real butthurt going on here except from you. All the comments by jmorris and runaway on this thread have been pretty low quality and boil down to unsupported wailing about reality.
MUH OPPRESSIONZ! lawl, fookin twats
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday June 22 2018, @01:19AM (1 child)
What you see doesn't match up to reality.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday June 23 2018, @10:22PM
Sometimes, Runaway, the reality you think you are in is not the actual reality that is real all by itself.
(Score: 2, Redundant) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:08AM (4 children)
So, Pratt, who invented the term "racism" was a genocidal sumbitch? In his world view, all Indian cultures had to be stamped out. Those Indians who conformed to white man's ways were permitted to live, whole those who refused were to be killed off. "Kill the Indian, save the man." Isn't that special?
So, liberals have embraced a term created by a genocidal monster, and made it their own. Again.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by jmorris on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:41AM (3 children)
Notice how even the NPR story has to praise him for being "Progressive?" Because in the end, the Government schools we were all forced into are built on the exact same "Progressive" model. To stamp out our "wrong" culture and replace it with their "Progressive" one. Scratch a Democrat, find a totalitarian. Every. Time.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:22AM (2 children)
Scratch a RWNJ and find green blood, you fuckers ain't human!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:15PM (1 child)
You stupid shit, that's not blood, that's chlorophyll. Solar power. It's the future.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @05:01PM
Ah that makes sense, I always did think of jmorris as a bit of a vegetable.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:14AM
Yeah, right, for certain values of 'agree'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:45AM
Wow...Just how does that Kool-Aid taste ,jm? Starting to feel sick now?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:10AM
This was richer:
Race realism is what they're calling it now?
Of course, I'll bet the idea that an increasing number of people in the world cannot fit into neat, mutually exclusive racialist boxes like "white", "black", "Asian", "Muslim", "Mexican" etc just freaks jmorris the fuck out. ("Muslim" and "Mexican" in particular, in typical authoritarian fashion, are races when it is convenient and not when inconvenient, as demonstrated by both alt-right and ctrl-left authoritarian leaders.)
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:10PM (2 children)
"SJW" is an admission that you can't beat us in a debate. You can't counter anything we've actually said so you invent an easier opponent.
There is no inconsistency between rejecting blank slate "every racial group (which doesn't even exist according to $current_year doctrine... until you aren't meeting your non-existent hiring quota) is exactly the same as every other in every statistically meaningful way"
Here's a great example. Show me were anyone on this site has EVER said that.
(Score: 2) by digitalaudiorock on Thursday June 21 2018, @07:51PM (1 child)
Today i went back and read/re-read all the crap these guys have posted. Frankly I got sick and fucking tired of it yesterday. It's a little beyond amazing.
So I guess now they're "enlightened" us to what their SJW nonsense refers to(?). Apparently it's some "Animal Farm"-ish reference because all minorities think they're "more equal" than everyone else, and that they've got it so good because all us libtards are fighting to make that a reality...or something. Holy fuck me with a stick. It makes even less sense with the explanation. It's frankly scary that anyone believes any of this shit on any level...but I guess you have to to maintain the required anger level of this group.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @11:58PM
It's real when it costs [spectator.co.uk]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @10:37PM (1 child)
You've clearly become emotionally compromised. Please back away from the keyboard while the rest of us have a rational discussion.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:11AM
Assertion in the need of a proof. In the respect of 'become', the rest is self evident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @12:04AM (6 children)
Thomas Sowell?!
The man is an economist for christ's sake! And he's a typical Reagan/Thatcher neo-liberal! You think he's a hero for playing along to get along? There's another name for that!
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:16AM (5 children)
Yes, there is, it's "society". Bucking the system that everyone but you agrees upon is the very definition of anti-social.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @05:03AM
Whow...now are you actually saying that jm and all the followers of Der Führer Trump, who are actually bucking the system that most people in this country and the world agree on are anti-social?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:33PM (3 children)
A society led and supported by racist fascists has no right to exist.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:19PM (2 children)
Agreed. So, what do you propose? That we shoot everyone who identifies as, and associates with Antifa?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @05:18PM
It is stupid commentary such as yours that makes it hard to have real discussions. Conservative types want to ignore that problems with racism we have in the US, they want to ignore the systemic problems created by racist policies, and they don't want to be held responsible in any way for anything.
Big giant babies who wouldn't know personal responsibility if it smacked them upside the head.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @08:50PM
Trump and our corrupt congress are Antifa?! Not much of a disguise...
(Score: 5, Insightful) by unauthorized on Wednesday June 20 2018, @11:41PM (5 children)
If you truly think that, then you live in a thought bubble. Opposition to far left radical progressivist moral authoritarians comes from every side except radical progressivist havens. SJW nutjobs exist, and I have ample evidence for it, but people of your persuasion always seem to have the same "it's a fringe case" attitude and dismiss evidence regardless of how much of it there is, whilst never seeming to afford the same courtesy to people who disagree with you.
One alt righter goes postal? See, they are all unhinged lunatics!
One Marxist professor tweets about wanting white genocide? Fringe case, fringe case, shut up you neo-nazi racist sexist homophobe bigot!
This is not a healthy attitude. Tribalism and bias do not produce ideas which are strongly consilient with reality. Bias exists to help us ensure we don't get eaten by predators, but it's woefully maladaptive when it comes to examining large complex systems such as human societies.
Then again, that might just my personal bias as someone who tries their darnest to combat their personal biases at every step.
It has bad connotations because of SJWs. It's very much like national socialism or communism in that sense, it's not the term in purely descriptive capacity by itself, but the people who it describes that are bad. You can commit injustice in the name of benign ideas.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @11:47PM (3 children)
No, it doesn't. Now go away, you unauthorized racist misogynist homophiliac!
(Score: 2) by bobthecimmerian on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:03AM (2 children)
Hey, that's an insult to homophiliacs.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:31AM (1 child)
Not to mentions the Homophonophiliacs, of whom we have far too many here on SolylentNews. Let me say, exampla gratia, "loose" or let me refer to the current "precedent". And a bit of pedantry in the defense of language, against the forces of idiotic uneducated and only marginally functionally literate white stupidity. Gawd, anyone who calls themselves "white" is by definition stupid. Stupid white people. Stupid for thinking they are white, when they are not. And more for thinking they are. There is no such thing as "white", it is only a back-formation by slavers to mean "not-slaves". So I think it is time to enslave the whites, give them iPhones, and turn them over to their corporate masters. Stupid white people.
(Score: 3, Touché) by melikamp on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:27PM
That's like saying, it's time to sip some tea, to drink tea, and get on with the tea drinking.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by cubancigar11 on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:24AM
I will further go ahead and tell you why it I consider it a bad term in itself. There is no such thing as "social" justice. There is only individual justice. There is a body to deliver justice, created over thousands of years that is called Judiciary. It deals justice to the individual(s), or at least that is how it is supposed to work. When it doesn't, that is corruption.
Do poor people have bigger trouble than richer people in climbing the social ladder? Of course! A rich man can invest 0.1% of his wealth and become richer but a poor man cannot invest 0.1% of his wealth otherwise what will he eat? This is a reality. And as much as some people might want to claim, it is not fair. But fair is not judicious. An unfair system, an existing bias, needs to pointed out and a solution devised so that it doesn't occur again. Justice is done ONCE, and then it is done. They are fundamentally different.
This is why "social justice" is by default on the far left. It is about extracting revenge, and once it has done that, its progenitors need to find some other social injustice to continue their successful enterprise.
PS: And then add "warrior" into it, which is a politically correct word for mindless-single-purpose-drone.
(Score: 2) by SanityCheck on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:27AM (2 children)
We had to call them something, because they didn't like being called faggots.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @05:12AM
We must assume you are talking about RWNJs.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:23PM
ROFLMAO - it's not so much that they didn't like being called faggots, but the kindling refused to catch fire until we stopped appropriating their name.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by NewNic on Wednesday June 20 2018, @09:44PM (16 children)
I'm don't understand why they think it's an insult.
What's wrong with social justice? What's wrong with wanting a more just society?
They (jmorris and people who think like him) are so enamoured of the super-wealthy that they can't see that they are merely the useful idiots in the plans made by the Mercers, Koch Brothers, etc.. Foolishly, jmorris and his like don't want a more fair society, because the have the ridiculous, naive, idiotic notion that they might one day join the ranks of the super-rich.
lib·er·tar·i·an·ism ˌlibərˈterēənizəm/ noun: Magical thinking that useful idiots mistake for serious political theory
(Score: 3, Insightful) by digitalaudiorock on Wednesday June 20 2018, @09:50PM (2 children)
My only guess is that there's some sort of "black lives matter" implication in the "social justice" part or the like...shit that only makes "sense" to the nudge-nudge-wink-wink-I'm-bigot-like-you crowd.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @10:09PM
So, it's a race thing? Checks out.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @11:52PM
Justice means we treat people the same (hopefully well) without regard to race, sex, ethnicity, etc.
Social Justice means that, as in Animal Farm, some are "more equal" than others. Social Justice establishes a victimhood ranking. You get treated based on your ranking. It's kind of like the system North Korea uses. People with supposed "privilege" (less ability to claim victimhood) get special perks. Those perks include job interviews, scholarships, promotions, a better progressive stack position, etc.
For those confused by that last one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_stack [wikipedia.org]
By being discriminatory, Social Justice breeds resentment. It actually cases hatred toward the favored people. It is fundamentally divisive.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @10:44PM
What's wrong with "social justice" is when it becomes a newspeak term appropriated by right-wing authoritarians.
I think a more appropriate term to describe the pseudo-left right-wing authoritarianism that gave rise to the alt-right is the ctrl-left. The ctrl-left is in favor of segregation (black only dorms), xenophobia (the "cultural appropriation" crowd), and many other right-wing ideas.
I am not even saying this from original gewg_'s usual complaint about how people in the USA talk about political left and right. The ctrl-left is an authoritarian movement.
Something has gone horrifically wrong with (neo)liberals in the USA. I expect RWA bullshit out of R teamers. D teamers need to seriously look in the mirror and contemplate how we turn this ship around.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:17AM (5 children)
The two words are good words. And, in fact, as a standalone phrase, "social justice" would seem to be a worthy goal. Unfortunately, the SJW's aren't interested in genuine social justice. As a class, they hate hetero Christian white males. They want to advance all other people over those hetero Christian white males, and beat those evil whites into the ground.
See their actions, forget about their words.
A bunch of deplorable white people hold a white supremacy rally, and Antifa shows up to start a violent protest. The media takes Antifa's side because WHITE!! There is no real examination of facts, all they care about is white on one side, black on the other, so obviously Antifa is in the right.
That is what SJW is all about. Beat down the white man.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @06:32AM (2 children)
Who you calling white, you fucking Slav! Polacks are not white, they are, well, Slavic, inferior, and the superior race has a right to replace them, in Poland, as well as in parts of Arkanfuckingsaw. Runaway, you race traitor! If only I could punch you in the face myself, as fellow Slav, to make you feel the depth of your betrayal. Oh, and I am sending some Bosniam Muslims to your house. Please give them the proper hospitality, befor they slit your throat and rape your sheep. Shalom, motherfucker!
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:27PM (1 child)
You're right in one instance, Aristarchus. I'm not "white" enough to join any WASP clubs. 100 years ago, my grandpa wasn't white enough to buy property in Hickory Township, Lawrence County, Pennsylvania.
But, you're also mistaken. I have very few superiors. If you think you've met one, you should introduce us. I'll figure out very quickly whether he/she is superior.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @05:24PM
Just by the sheer amount of bullshit you spew on here there are a lot of people superior to yourself. At least it seems like you're trying, but so often you regress into blithering RWNJ territory.
(Score: 1) by oldmac31310 on Friday June 22 2018, @02:33PM (1 child)
You are such an arsehole.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday June 22 2018, @02:43PM
You wasted time telling me that? Of course, I'm the asocial asshole. So - is there any particular part of my post that you find objectionable? Are you capable of making a counterpoint? Please, don't waste your time, or mine, with inanities such as this.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:19AM
What's wrong with social justice? It's a bullshit phrase pulled out when you want something to sound like it's a good thing because it has the word "justice" in it when it is in fact the exact opposite of actual justice.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2, Offtopic) by khallow on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:08AM (4 children)
What's wrong with justice that one has to add an adjective like "social" to it?
"Social" is Orwellian in how it perverts the meaning of words. Social justice isn't justice. The social contract is not a contract. Social awareness is not awareness. Social security isn't security.
Moving on:
And here's an example. You couldn't even use the phrase in your very next paragraph. It had already lost its utility. You instead spoke of justice instead of social justice.
Because obviously, only people who are suffering from super-wealthy adulation would ever disagree with you.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @05:22AM (3 children)
Yeah...what's wrong with plain old Justice? Why are you so afraid of real justice? Is it because in a just world you would have to prove your worth?
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Thursday June 21 2018, @06:36AM (2 children)
Well, the obvious rebuttal is, um, well, OK, there is no obvious rebuttal to Social Justice. Unless it is Social Injustice. But the US tried that before, and, well, black lives matter? Are you a fcking racist, khallow? Or just a victim of white priviledge? In either case, stand down you moron.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @09:02AM
Self rebuttal if you were paying attention.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday June 21 2018, @11:33AM