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posted by janrinok on Wednesday June 20 2018, @06:42PM   Printer-friendly
from the nothing-will-change dept.

US leaving UN Human Rights Council -- 'a cesspool of political bias'

US Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley announced the United States is withdrawing from the UN Human Rights Council Tuesday, accusing the body of bias against US ally Israel and a failure to hold human rights abusers accountable. The move, which the Trump administration has threatened for months, came down one day after the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights slammed the separation of children from their parents at the US-Mexico border as "unconscionable."

Speaking from the State Department, where she was joined by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Haley defended the move to withdraw from the council, saying US calls for reform were not heeded. "Human rights abusers continue to serve on, and be elected to, the council," said Haley, listing US grievances with the body. "The world's most inhumane regimes continue to escape its scrutiny, and the council continues politicizing scapegoating of countries with positive human rights records in an attempt to distract from the abusers in its ranks."

Also at NPR and Bloomberg.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by digitalaudiorock on Wednesday June 20 2018, @08:50PM (47 children)

    by digitalaudiorock (688) on Wednesday June 20 2018, @08:50PM (#695784) Journal

    You throw SJW around so often it is meaningless.

    SJW was meaningless the first time it was used. The far right in has gone so bat shit nuts that the have their own fucking language that doesn't make sense to people who actually think.

    I never really got it at any level...even why being a warrior for "social justice" (whatever that means) would even have a bad connotation. I guess "brutal fucking dictator" is more "in" these days? Whatever.

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  • (Score: 3, Flamebait) by jmorris on Wednesday June 20 2018, @09:04PM (37 children)

    by jmorris (4844) on Wednesday June 20 2018, @09:04PM (#695795)

    1. For a meaningless term all the right people sure do instantly know when they have been insulted. It works.

    2. They SJWs themselves named themselves. We just weaponized it back on them by flipping it to a term of ridicule.

    3. Social Justice is a contradiction in terms. None will debate me on that because it can't be debated rationally, it intended only as an emotional appeal. And if anyone thinks otherwise I'd suggest obtaining a copy of Thomas Sowell's The Quest for Cosmic Justice and save yourself some pain. However I'm cruel enough to deliver the pain if someone just wants some.

    WHO WANTS SOME?

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @09:33PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @09:33PM (#695808)

      So youre a raging ball of hate. Got it, moving on.

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:06PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:06PM (#696241) Journal

        It's all they have.

        They defend Trump's actions. They can't beat us in a debate. So, they invent a Strawman-Justice-Warrior and debate whatever nonsense they project onto it.

        Notice they're never responding to something someone actually said here.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by digitalaudiorock on Wednesday June 20 2018, @09:42PM

      by digitalaudiorock (688) on Wednesday June 20 2018, @09:42PM (#695815) Journal

      Wow...rich. The fact that you think any of that means shit says it all. I've got one: Go fuck yourself. Can you figure out who I'm insulting?

    • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @10:08PM (24 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @10:08PM (#695827)

      Thomas Sowell? Um, jmorris, you know, he's black! What exact kind of n*********** kyke are you?

      • (Score: 2, Troll) by jmorris on Wednesday June 20 2018, @11:03PM (23 children)

        by jmorris (4844) on Wednesday June 20 2018, @11:03PM (#695852)

        So? There is no inconsistency between rejecting blank slate "every racial group (which doesn't even exist according to $current_year doctrine... until you aren't meeting your non-existent hiring quota) is exactly the same as every other in every statistically meaningful way" idiocy and recognizing excellence, which is rare in every population, wherever it occurs. You confuse race realism with racism. Racism is a made up silly word that didn't even exist a few short decades ago. It does sadden me that Dr. Sowell has yet to abandon the NeverTrump dead end and get on board the MAGA train, but he will get there.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @11:43PM (19 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @11:43PM (#695872)

          Racism is a made up silly word that didn't even exist a few short decades ago

          That's rich.

          • (Score: 3, Informative) by jmorris on Thursday June 21 2018, @12:23AM (17 children)

            by jmorris (4844) on Thursday June 21 2018, @12:23AM (#695891)

            Too bad history agrees with me.

            The Ugly, Fascinating History Of The Word 'Racism' [npr.org] I assume you trust NPR, right? Guy who coined the word sounds like a total asshole.

            Or Chart: frequency of the word "Racism" in the NYT over time

            Thanks for playing, better luck next time.

            p.s. Google is biased and full of bullshit but still useful to look things up before you post your ignorance to the world.

            • (Score: 4, Informative) by jmorris on Thursday June 21 2018, @12:24AM

              by jmorris (4844) on Thursday June 21 2018, @12:24AM (#695893)

              Crap, something is hosed in the second link. Trying again with preview!

              Chart: Frequency of the word racism in the New York Times [reddit.com]

            • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @01:26AM (8 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @01:26AM (#695914)

              Given the sheer scale of the physical and cultural violence he helped set in motion, was Pratt himself a practitioner of the very ill he decried at the Lake Mohonk convention? Was he a racist?

              Over a century after he was first recorded using the word

              God I love how often your own citations backfire on you.

              "Racism is a made up silly word that didn't even exist a few short decades ago"

              So a few short decades does not make a century, and every single word humanity uses is "made up". You are a jackass, you are wrong, and "race realism"? Jesus, just admit your a bigoted piece of shit and maybe you can begin reconstructing your psyche.

              • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by jmorris on Thursday June 21 2018, @01:41AM

                by jmorris (4844) on Thursday June 21 2018, @01:41AM (#695925)

                The first ref was just to absolutely nail down the first use of the word. Notice from the second link that it was as quickly forgotten after that first utterance and didn't appear at all until around WWII and wasn't in common usage until the "Cultural Revolution" in the 1960's. That makes it a pretty new word to be the basis for our current State Religion.

              • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:10AM (6 children)

                by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:10AM (#695942) Journal

                Ten or twelve decades are indeed just a few short decades. As opposed to 200 decades ago, when the Romans still held power. Is there some power in the word century for you?

                • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:15AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:15AM (#695946)

                  Yes, when someone makes an assertion about some modern liberal conspiracy to use the word "racist" as some political tool for *reasons* and totally fails on the timeline.

                  I dont need to insult your intelligence though, you do a good enough job on your own.

                • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by aristarchus on Thursday June 21 2018, @06:24AM (4 children)

                  by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday June 21 2018, @06:24AM (#696059) Journal

                  I am only here to down-mod both the despicable jmorris, and the deplorable Runaway. They both know why. They are both products of the lack of choice by women, or that is to say, they are missed abortions. But that is pretty obvious from their posting. I sometimes think, that if jmorris, or Runaway, either of them, really, could develop the capacity for reason, you know, rational thought, and could go from accepted factes about the world, to the premise that one ought nought have sex outside one's own species? A bridge too far?

                  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:13PM (3 children)

                    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:13PM (#696249) Journal
                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @06:09PM (2 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @06:09PM (#696330)

                      I don't see any real butthurt going on here except from you. All the comments by jmorris and runaway on this thread have been pretty low quality and boil down to unsupported wailing about reality.

                      MUH OPPRESSIONZ! lawl, fookin twats

                      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday June 22 2018, @01:19AM (1 child)

                        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 22 2018, @01:19AM (#696513) Journal

                        What you see doesn't match up to reality.

                        • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday June 23 2018, @10:22PM

                          by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday June 23 2018, @10:22PM (#697371) Journal

                          Sometimes, Runaway, the reality you think you are in is not the actual reality that is real all by itself.

            • (Score: 2, Redundant) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:08AM (4 children)

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:08AM (#695940) Journal

              So, Pratt, who invented the term "racism" was a genocidal sumbitch? In his world view, all Indian cultures had to be stamped out. Those Indians who conformed to white man's ways were permitted to live, whole those who refused were to be killed off. "Kill the Indian, save the man." Isn't that special?

              So, liberals have embraced a term created by a genocidal monster, and made it their own. Again.

              • (Score: 3, Insightful) by jmorris on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:41AM (3 children)

                by jmorris (4844) on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:41AM (#695964)

                Notice how even the NPR story has to praise him for being "Progressive?" Because in the end, the Government schools we were all forced into are built on the exact same "Progressive" model. To stamp out our "wrong" culture and replace it with their "Progressive" one. Scratch a Democrat, find a totalitarian. Every. Time.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:22AM (2 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:22AM (#695981)

                  Scratch a RWNJ and find green blood, you fuckers ain't human!

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:15PM (1 child)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:15PM (#696251)

                    You stupid shit, that's not blood, that's chlorophyll. Solar power. It's the future.

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @05:01PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @05:01PM (#696288)

                      Ah that makes sense, I always did think of jmorris as a bit of a vegetable.

            • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:14AM

              by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:14AM (#695976) Journal

              Yeah, right, for certain values of 'agree'.

              --
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:45AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:45AM (#696030)

              Wow...Just how does that Kool-Aid taste ,jm? Starting to feel sick now?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:10AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:10AM (#696004)

            This was richer:

            You confuse race realism with racism.

            Race realism is what they're calling it now?

            Of course, I'll bet the idea that an increasing number of people in the world cannot fit into neat, mutually exclusive racialist boxes like "white", "black", "Asian", "Muslim", "Mexican" etc just freaks jmorris the fuck out. ("Muslim" and "Mexican" in particular, in typical authoritarian fashion, are races when it is convenient and not when inconvenient, as demonstrated by both alt-right and ctrl-left authoritarian leaders.)

        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:10PM (2 children)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:10PM (#696247) Journal

          "SJW" is an admission that you can't beat us in a debate. You can't counter anything we've actually said so you invent an easier opponent.

          There is no inconsistency between rejecting blank slate "every racial group (which doesn't even exist according to $current_year doctrine... until you aren't meeting your non-existent hiring quota) is exactly the same as every other in every statistically meaningful way"

          Here's a great example. Show me were anyone on this site has EVER said that.

          • (Score: 2) by digitalaudiorock on Thursday June 21 2018, @07:51PM (1 child)

            by digitalaudiorock (688) on Thursday June 21 2018, @07:51PM (#696379) Journal

            "SJW" is an admission that you can't beat us in a debate. You can't counter anything we've actually said so you invent an easier opponent.

            Today i went back and read/re-read all the crap these guys have posted. Frankly I got sick and fucking tired of it yesterday. It's a little beyond amazing.

            So I guess now they're "enlightened" us to what their SJW nonsense refers to(?). Apparently it's some "Animal Farm"-ish reference because all minorities think they're "more equal" than everyone else, and that they've got it so good because all us libtards are fighting to make that a reality...or something. Holy fuck me with a stick. It makes even less sense with the explanation. It's frankly scary that anyone believes any of this shit on any level...but I guess you have to to maintain the required anger level of this group.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @11:58PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @11:58PM (#696479)

              It's real when it costs [spectator.co.uk]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @10:37PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @10:37PM (#695843)

      WHO WANTS SOME?

      You've clearly become emotionally compromised. Please back away from the keyboard while the rest of us have a rational discussion.

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:11AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:11AM (#695975) Journal

        you've clearly become emotionally compromised

        Assertion in the need of a proof. In the respect of 'become', the rest is self evident.

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        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @12:04AM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @12:04AM (#695884)

      Thomas Sowell?!

      The man is an economist for christ's sake! And he's a typical Reagan/Thatcher neo-liberal! You think he's a hero for playing along to get along? There's another name for that!

      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:16AM (5 children)

        Yes, there is, it's "society". Bucking the system that everyone but you agrees upon is the very definition of anti-social.

        --
        My rights don't end where your fear begins.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @05:03AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @05:03AM (#696035)

          Whow...now are you actually saying that jm and all the followers of Der Führer Trump, who are actually bucking the system that most people in this country and the world agree on are anti-social?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:33PM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:33PM (#696223)

          A society led and supported by racist fascists has no right to exist.

          • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:19PM (2 children)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:19PM (#696253) Journal

            Agreed. So, what do you propose? That we shoot everyone who identifies as, and associates with Antifa?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @05:18PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @05:18PM (#696298)

              It is stupid commentary such as yours that makes it hard to have real discussions. Conservative types want to ignore that problems with racism we have in the US, they want to ignore the systemic problems created by racist policies, and they don't want to be held responsible in any way for anything.

              Big giant babies who wouldn't know personal responsibility if it smacked them upside the head.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @08:50PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @08:50PM (#696388)

              Trump and our corrupt congress are Antifa?! Not much of a disguise...

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by unauthorized on Wednesday June 20 2018, @11:41PM (5 children)

    by unauthorized (3776) on Wednesday June 20 2018, @11:41PM (#695871)

    SJW was meaningless the first time it was used. The far right in has gone so bat shit nuts that the have their own fucking language that doesn't make sense to people who actually think.

    If you truly think that, then you live in a thought bubble. Opposition to far left radical progressivist moral authoritarians comes from every side except radical progressivist havens. SJW nutjobs exist, and I have ample evidence for it, but people of your persuasion always seem to have the same "it's a fringe case" attitude and dismiss evidence regardless of how much of it there is, whilst never seeming to afford the same courtesy to people who disagree with you.

    One alt righter goes postal? See, they are all unhinged lunatics!
    One Marxist professor tweets about wanting white genocide? Fringe case, fringe case, shut up you neo-nazi racist sexist homophobe bigot!

    This is not a healthy attitude. Tribalism and bias do not produce ideas which are strongly consilient with reality. Bias exists to help us ensure we don't get eaten by predators, but it's woefully maladaptive when it comes to examining large complex systems such as human societies.

    Then again, that might just my personal bias as someone who tries their darnest to combat their personal biases at every step.

    I never really got it at any level...even why being a warrior for "social justice" (whatever that means) would even have a bad connotation. I guess "brutal fucking dictator" is more "in" these days? Whatever.

    It has bad connotations because of SJWs. It's very much like national socialism or communism in that sense, it's not the term in purely descriptive capacity by itself, but the people who it describes that are bad. You can commit injustice in the name of benign ideas.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @11:47PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @11:47PM (#695873)

      It has bad connotations because of SJWs.

      No, it doesn't. Now go away, you unauthorized racist misogynist homophiliac!

      • (Score: 2) by bobthecimmerian on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:03AM (2 children)

        by bobthecimmerian (6834) on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:03AM (#695936)

        Hey, that's an insult to homophiliacs.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:31AM (1 child)

          by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:31AM (#696022) Journal

          Not to mentions the Homophonophiliacs, of whom we have far too many here on SolylentNews. Let me say, exampla gratia, "loose" or let me refer to the current "precedent". And a bit of pedantry in the defense of language, against the forces of idiotic uneducated and only marginally functionally literate white stupidity. Gawd, anyone who calls themselves "white" is by definition stupid. Stupid white people. Stupid for thinking they are white, when they are not. And more for thinking they are. There is no such thing as "white", it is only a back-formation by slavers to mean "not-slaves". So I think it is time to enslave the whites, give them iPhones, and turn them over to their corporate masters. Stupid white people.

          • (Score: 3, Touché) by melikamp on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:27PM

            by melikamp (1886) on Thursday June 21 2018, @02:27PM (#696192) Journal

            So I think it is time to enslave the whites, give them iPhones, and turn them over to their corporate masters.

            That's like saying, it's time to sip some tea, to drink tea, and get on with the tea drinking.

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by cubancigar11 on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:24AM

      by cubancigar11 (330) on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:24AM (#696015) Homepage Journal

      It has bad connotations because of SJWs.

      I will further go ahead and tell you why it I consider it a bad term in itself. There is no such thing as "social" justice. There is only individual justice. There is a body to deliver justice, created over thousands of years that is called Judiciary. It deals justice to the individual(s), or at least that is how it is supposed to work. When it doesn't, that is corruption.

      Do poor people have bigger trouble than richer people in climbing the social ladder? Of course! A rich man can invest 0.1% of his wealth and become richer but a poor man cannot invest 0.1% of his wealth otherwise what will he eat? This is a reality. And as much as some people might want to claim, it is not fair. But fair is not judicious. An unfair system, an existing bias, needs to pointed out and a solution devised so that it doesn't occur again. Justice is done ONCE, and then it is done. They are fundamentally different.

      This is why "social justice" is by default on the far left. It is about extracting revenge, and once it has done that, its progenitors need to find some other social injustice to continue their successful enterprise.

      PS: And then add "warrior" into it, which is a politically correct word for mindless-single-purpose-drone.

  • (Score: 2) by SanityCheck on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:27AM (2 children)

    by SanityCheck (5190) on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:27AM (#695984)

    We had to call them something, because they didn't like being called faggots.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @05:12AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 21 2018, @05:12AM (#696037)

      We must assume you are talking about RWNJs.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:23PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 21 2018, @04:23PM (#696256) Journal

      ROFLMAO - it's not so much that they didn't like being called faggots, but the kindling refused to catch fire until we stopped appropriating their name.