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posted by janrinok on Saturday June 23 2018, @09:01AM   Printer-friendly
from the cost-of-making-money dept.

One of Canada's largest utilities is planning to make blockchain companies bid for access to electricity.

Hydro Quebec says it will set aside a 500MW block of power that will be reserved for companies that are "using cryptography as applied to blockchain technology." Access to that block will be subject to a bidding process and companies that want to operate their servers and miners will be required to make bids in order to get power.

The starting rate for the bids will be an increase of 1 cent per kilowatt hour above the current price.

The move is an effort by Hydro Quebec to get a handle on an explosion of blockchain related activity (read: cryptocoin mining) that has caused a power crunch in Quebec. The company said earlier this month that it needed to take emergency measures to limit consumption and that "demand exceeds Hydro-Québec’s short and medium-term capacity."

The process will not just be based on how much money companies are willing to spend. Hydro Quebec says it will also consider job implications in the bids, and companies that plan to hire people in Quebec and deliver higher paying jobs (calculated in payroll per MW) will get higher consideration.


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by zocalo on Saturday June 23 2018, @03:39PM (5 children)

    by zocalo (302) on Saturday June 23 2018, @03:39PM (#697210)
    Perhaps you missed the bit about the "power crunch"? Or are not aware that it's extremely common for power companies to have very flexible pricing schemes for large scale consumers depending on how much and when they consume the power, which are usually *considerably* cheaper than domestic rates? If you're big enough; they'll occassionally pay you to consume power to help maintain baseload as that can actually work out cheaper and more efficient than spinning an entire power station down and back up again. Another few cents per kWh above what they are currently paying is still likely to a LOT less than a typical Quebecois is paying to fuel their home.

    Thanks to planning and permits you simply can't upgrade an electricity grid on this scale, even if you wanted to, within the timeframe of the crypto mining boom that Quebec is dealing with. Provided that they are actually working to make up the enery shortfall, this seems like a pretty fair way of ensuring that those that caused the crunch being the ones that get to make up the shortfall in the interim. Besides, if the crypto-mining company is large enough and is willing to be flexible in how many ASICs/GPUs they are running during peak hours, a little negotiation might well open up those more flexible rates above.
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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 23 2018, @04:52PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 23 2018, @04:52PM (#697232)

    If you could read and comprehend simple sentences, you could see that i understand this. My beef is them getting involved *what* you use the power for, not how much. Its none of their business.

    • (Score: 2) by frojack on Saturday June 23 2018, @07:59PM (3 children)

      by frojack (1554) on Saturday June 23 2018, @07:59PM (#697331) Journal

      Contrary to popular opinion, there are some instances where society allocates scarce resources via methods other than price, based on reasons other than simple level of consumption. Welcome to civilization.

      Upon demand beyond available supply, the provider usually has government mandated priorities to satisfy. You can't cut power to a hospital, or a port, or even a subdivision of houses just to serve a few high-demand customers who you KNOW to be engaged in non-critical use for personal profit.

      So you shed smelters, and similar high demand users first, and you have connection agreements and pricing to allow for this.

      They know its a possibility, its in their contract. This is no different than that. No lives are at stake, the fewest people will be inconvenienced, and its all taken care of by contract and expectations.

      Further, in this case, its a government run public utility, with a mandate to serve all citizens and voters.

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      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday June 24 2018, @01:33AM (2 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 24 2018, @01:33AM (#697423) Journal

        Contrary to popular opinion, there are some instances where society allocates scarce resources via methods other than price, based on reasons other than simple level of consumption.

        And sometimes societies kill millions of innocent people. Doesn't make it a good idea.

        • (Score: 2) by frojack on Sunday June 24 2018, @07:12AM (1 child)

          by frojack (1554) on Sunday June 24 2018, @07:12AM (#697477) Journal

          What part of limiting crypt miners energy usage kills millions of people?

          Or were you just trying to Godwin the thread?

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          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday June 24 2018, @09:23AM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 24 2018, @09:23AM (#697485) Journal

            What part of limiting crypt miners energy usage kills millions of people?

            The idea where if society does it, then it must be a good thing.