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posted by janrinok on Sunday June 24 2018, @05:52PM   Printer-friendly
from the fetch-the-popcorn dept.

From Raw Story

The National Park Service has approved an application for a year anniversary commemoration of Charlottesville's violent white supremacist rally to be held in Washington, DC.

DC's WUSA9 reported that NPS approved the application but has not yet issued permits for the rally set to be held at Lafayette Square, a seven-acre park just north of the White House. The event is to be organized by Jason Kessler, the organizer of the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville where 32-year-old Heather Heyer was hit and killed by an alleged white supremacist.

"This year we have a new purpose," Kessler said, discussing the upcoming rally. "That's to talk about the civil rights abuse that happened in Charlottesville, Virginia last year."

Kessler claimed it wasn't his fault that "that stuff happened," and said that in the months since the rally ostensibly intended to "defend" a statue of Confederate general Robert E. Lee, "white civil rights" have taken a hit.

"We're not able to peacefully assemble. We're not able to speak," he told WUSA. "I keep telling people if your right to rally and your right to protest means that someone else's life might be in danger, then it is no longer free speech but it is hate speech."


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Sunday June 24 2018, @11:54PM (31 children)

    by aristarchus (2645) on Sunday June 24 2018, @11:54PM (#697818) Journal

    Perhaps you have missed the invention of artillery, which have rendered walls defensively useless. Defence in depth is the only way to go now. Walls are only a pablum offered to very cowardly and scared racists by frauds with tiny hands and artificially retained hair.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 25 2018, @12:13AM (28 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 25 2018, @12:13AM (#697836)

    You may think leftists get their panties in a knot over a mere wall, the most basic type of border control, but that's hardly anything.

    When the US Army really wants to secure something, they install landmines. The landmines themselves are protected by machine guns. This is how we did the Korean border. Tunnels need to go for miles (the border zone is deep), which is technically possible but damn expensive and difficult. Aircraft get shot out of the sky.

    We did that just to protect some foreigners in a far off land. Our own people deserve at least as much.

    The modern upgrade is of course computerized gun turrets. Robots don't fall asleep. They don't have difficulty pulling the trigger. This is far more humane, because it doesn't subject any Americans to machine gunner duty. Also, nobody would willingly cross. The only deaths would be from cartels offering it as an alternative to torture, but that's a Mexican problem not our problem.

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by aristarchus on Monday June 25 2018, @12:34AM (27 children)

      by aristarchus (2645) on Monday June 25 2018, @12:34AM (#697851) Journal

      When I mentioned "defense in depth", I meant things like justice and high culture, respect for human rights, and charity and aid for the less fortunate. You know, the kinds of things that America once stood for. If you have those, the weapons and fortifications are unnecessary. In fact, your problem becomes so many flocking to your shores because you are a "shining city on a hill". Only racist fools take that as an attack.

      The plain lesson of history is that countries, empires, and civilizations are never overthrown by external forces, instead the collapse morally from within. Post-911 America is well on its way.

      And, as Sarah Palin said, "A fish rots from downstream."

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 25 2018, @03:47AM (22 children)

        Charity is given willingly. Taking someone else's money at gunpoint and giving it to whoever you decide to is neither charity nor morally correct.

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        • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Monday June 25 2018, @04:08AM (21 children)

          by aristarchus (2645) on Monday June 25 2018, @04:08AM (#697956) Journal

          Some people need help with the whole "charity" thing. I daresay you might be one, oh Scroogely Buzzzard? Forceable help. Call it "tough love", or "deterrence".

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday June 25 2018, @05:49AM (10 children)

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday June 25 2018, @05:49AM (#697981) Journal

            Uzzard's post history can more or less be summed up in four words: "Fuck you, got mine." Try it. Replace everything he says when he isn't joking around with "fuck you, got mine," and see if there's really any difference to the overall sense of it.

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            • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Monday June 25 2018, @10:26AM

              by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 25 2018, @10:26AM (#698059) Homepage Journal

              I love your signature quote.

            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 25 2018, @06:49PM (8 children)

              See, posts like this only illustrate that you know fuck-all about me. I'll give a guy the shirt off my back if he needs it. I'll shoot him in the face if he tries to take it though.

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              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday June 26 2018, @07:50AM (7 children)

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday June 26 2018, @07:50AM (#698644) Journal

                Looks like I hit a nerve there. Unfortunately, it still holds: your ideas of who might "deserve" said shirt are well in line with what the wealthy elite behind all this want you to think. You've been manipulated, too.

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                • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday June 28 2018, @04:09AM (6 children)

                  Missed by a mile again. That was typed as I was waking up from a nap, so I was at peace with the universe and not awake enough to even pity your utter lack of accurate empathy like I normally do.

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                  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday June 28 2018, @05:15AM (5 children)

                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday June 28 2018, @05:15AM (#699672) Journal

                    You don't get to use words like "empathy." They shrivel up and die and turn into blasphemous zombie caricatures of themselves after passing through your lips, just like every good thing does whenever any self-serving shitstain like you tries to twist it for his own ends. Do you really think we don't, collectively, have your number on this site by now? And you're not even the worst of them...

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                    • (Score: 1, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday July 01 2018, @02:05AM (4 children)

                      Fraid not, darlin. Remember that whole "stronger emotions" thing? Applies to empathy as well as anger. I just don't let my emotions override my rational mind. I know that's an utterly alien prospect to you but it's how you're supposed to do it if you want to be more than an animal.

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                      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday July 01 2018, @04:45AM (3 children)

                        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday July 01 2018, @04:45AM (#700882) Journal

                        That's bloody hilarious. Your entire worldview is based on "muh feelz" and anyone who spends more than 5 minutes reading your posts can figure that out. Someday I hope someone manages to write the defining book on why your kind are so completely addicted to hypocrisy and projection. Something like The Authoritarians, but dopier, most likely.

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                        • (Score: 1, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday July 01 2018, @01:19PM (2 children)

                          Darlin, your every last position lets emotion win out over reason. Even dogs are capable of overriding their emotion and instinct with reason. What does it say that you're unable?

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                          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday July 01 2018, @03:18PM (1 child)

                            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday July 01 2018, @03:18PM (#700984) Journal

                            Lying, hypocrisy, and projection, the unholy trinity of the "right-wing." Everyone here has your number already, carrion-breath. You only make yourself look worse when you try that.

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          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 25 2018, @06:51PM (9 children)

            Ahh, you know better than the people how to live their lives then? That's a common failing among tyrannical fuckwads.

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            • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Monday June 25 2018, @08:17PM (8 children)

              by aristarchus (2645) on Monday June 25 2018, @08:17PM (#698345) Journal

              It is also the calling of philosophers. We try to at least get people to be self-conscious about how they are living, and even possibly how their life affects others.

              • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 25 2018, @08:32PM (7 children)

                Bzzzt! Philosophers try to teach others what they think is a better way to live. Tyrants try to force them to live how the tyrant thinks they should. One is helpful one is a human shitstain. I'm not surprised you can't spot the difference.

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                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 25 2018, @11:35PM (6 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 25 2018, @11:35PM (#698445)

                  After hiking for days we have finally found tracks from the elusive Projectus Conservatetia. It is an incredibly lucky find at this time of year because these delicate creatures spend their first few seasons storing supplies so they can have a kind of reverse hibernation. They are more active during the winter when predators are less active and the Projectus' naturally cold body temperature causes a light dusting of snowflakes to cover their tracks.

                  This Projectus has left the safety of his subterranean lair probably due to a summer heatstroke they are quite susceptible to. We must leave the area quickly as further disturbances may cause undue activity that causes his body temperature to rise to dangerous, almost mammalian, levels.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 26 2018, @01:11AM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 26 2018, @01:11AM (#698505)

                    ... it was months before anyone passed down that trail again, but a search party was eventually sent when the erstwhile Social Justice Voyeur failed to return from his voyage. Shards of bleached white bones were found, but not even a single tarsal was left intact. The nearby villagers knew nothing of the SJV's voyage to that free and while land, but for years afterward the story was told of the horrible shrieking shouts and maniacal laughter that echoed through the forest that summer. It was a great time for White Rights.

                  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday June 26 2018, @03:02AM (4 children)

                    Sorry, not remotely a conservative. I think gay married couples should be able to protect their pot farms with their machine guns. Might have been witty if it were accurate though.

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                    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 26 2018, @07:08AM (3 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 26 2018, @07:08AM (#698627)

                      Just, as the Nazis used to call them, useful idiots. You are supporting Conservative causes with your brain-dead libertariantardism, you are the Fifth column, and it pains me and many others that you do this as a Native American. My ancestors will be in contact with your ancestors. I suspect more than 70% of yours are Washita?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 25 2018, @12:39PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 25 2018, @12:39PM (#698090)

        The plain lesson of history is that countries, empires, and civilizations are never overthrown by external forces, instead the collapse morally from within. Post-911 America is well on its way.

        No shit. Thanks Obama and happy you agree. Now go read the Satyricon.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 25 2018, @04:57PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 25 2018, @04:57PM (#698201)

        The plain lesson of history is that countries, empires, and civilizations are never overthrown by external forces, instead the collapse morally from within. Post-911 America is well on its way.

        Are you really suggesting that no country has ever been overthrown by external forces?

        I literally can't count the number of counter-examples to this. Off the top of my head, though, look up Carthage, the various state in ancient Greece, the Norman invasion of England, current-day Crimea, and the different kingdoms of ancient China.

        To say that countries, empires, and civilizations are never at threat from external forces is naive in the extreme. You may or may not agree that modern day America is at risk from external forces... but surely you aren't suggesting every country everywhere is always safe "if only we could just get along."

        • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Monday June 25 2018, @08:13PM (1 child)

          by aristarchus (2645) on Monday June 25 2018, @08:13PM (#698344) Journal

          Read more carefully. In all these instances, the state in question was already falling apart, rife with corruption, and ruled over by a feckless oligarchy that lead it to ruin.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday June 26 2018, @11:05PM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 26 2018, @11:05PM (#699012) Journal
            I'd still go with Carthage, the ancient Greek city states, Norman invasion of England, and the invasion of current day Crimea. (The various collapses of Chinese empires are notorious as being internally caused. I would not count a single one of them.) To that number, I'd add the Middle East during the invasion by Genghis Khan, about half of the countries taken over by Nazi Germany during the Second World War, and the entirety of the Americas during the age of European colonization.
  • (Score: 1) by DECbot on Monday June 25 2018, @07:41PM (1 child)

    by DECbot (832) on Monday June 25 2018, @07:41PM (#698320) Journal

    Are you suggesting the illegals will resort to artillery to launch themselves over the boarder walls Trump wants to build?

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