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posted by Fnord666 on Friday June 29 2018, @12:06PM   Printer-friendly
from the what's-next? dept.

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

In a corner of SpaceX's headquarters in Hawthorne, California, a small, secretive group called Ad Astra is hard at work. These are not the company's usual rocket scientists. At the direction of Elon Musk, they are tackling ambitious projects involving flamethrowers, robots, nuclear politics, and defeating evil AIs.

Those at Ad Astra still find time for a quick game of dodgeball at lunch, however, because the average age within this group is just 10 years old.

Ad Astra encompasses students, not employees. For the past four years, this experimental non-profit school has been quietly educating Musk's sons, the children of select SpaceX employees, and a few high-achievers from nearby Los Angeles. It started back in 2014, when Musk pulled his five young sons out of one of Los Angeles' most prestigious private schools for gifted children. Hiring one of his sons' teachers, the CEO founded Ad Astra to "exceed traditional school metrics on all relevant subject matter through unique project-based learning experiences," according to a previously unreported document filed with the US Internal Revenue Service (IRS).

"I just didn't see that the regular schools were doing the things that I thought should be done," he told a Chinese TV station in 2015. "So I thought, well let's see what we can do. Maybe creating a school will be better."

In an atmosphere closer to a venture capital incubator than a traditional school, today's Ad Astra students undertake challenging technical projects, trade using their own currency, and can opt out of subjects they don't enjoy. Children from 7 to 14 years old work together in teams, with few formal assessments and no grades handed out.

Ad Astra's principal hopes that the school will revolutionize education in the same way Tesla has disrupted transportation, and SpaceX the rocket industry. But as Musk's sons near graduation age, the future of Ad Astra is unclear. Will Musk maintain interest in the school once his children move on? And even if he does, can a school of fewer than 40 students ever be anything more than a high-tech crèche for already-privileged children?

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by khallow on Friday June 29 2018, @12:26PM (13 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 29 2018, @12:26PM (#700215) Journal
    This reminds me of when every action of Google was looked at under a microscope and perceived in the most dazzlingly vast way possible. Perhaps this does indeed herald some revolution in education. But there is only so much Musk can do at once.
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  • (Score: 2, Offtopic) by realDonaldTrump on Friday June 29 2018, @01:03PM

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Friday June 29 2018, @01:03PM (#700221) Homepage Journal

    Remember when Exxon-Mobil was the Most Valuable Company? The biggest market cap. Not so long ago. Not long at all, if you think about it. Now it's not even in the top ten. And maybe it's 13. Apple, Amazon, Microsoft, Alphabet -- otherwise known as Google -- Facebook and Tencent of China, all more valued than Exxon-Mobil. But if something happens, and I think you know what I mean, we'll need oil to make that something. We'll need coal, we'll need steel. Aluminum. We're saving the steel, and a lot of steel mills are now opening up because of what I did. Steel is back, and aluminum is back. MAGA!!

  • (Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Friday June 29 2018, @02:31PM (8 children)

    by bzipitidoo (4388) on Friday June 29 2018, @02:31PM (#700232) Journal

    Yeah, I'm tired of the hero worship. Musk is a great guy and all that, apparently totally self-made too, but there are other geniuses in the world. The media and people latch on to a few names, and ignore everyone else. I think it'd be a significant advancement if the public consciousness expanded to make room for more notable people. Have a lot more slightly famous people and fewer "superfamous".

    Wouldn't surprise me if Musk didn't care for it either.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Friday June 29 2018, @03:10PM (5 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 29 2018, @03:10PM (#700243) Journal

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number [wikipedia.org]

      Dunbar's number is a suggested cognitive limit to the number of people with whom one can maintain stable social relationships—relationships in which an individual knows who each person is and how each person relates to every other person.

      https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dunbar-layers-friendship-study_us_5728d4c5e4b016f37893ac14 [huffingtonpost.com]

      According to new research, we may really play favorites when it comes to our BFFs -- at least unknowingly. Apparently, our capacity for simultaneous close friendships peaks at approximately five people.

      So, in response to your statement, I have to point out that people are already overloaded. Whichever sports they follow, plus whichever "celebrities" they follow in Hollywood/Bollywood/wherever, plus those political things that they can't avoid, adds up to a lot of monkeys to keep track of.

      http://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monkeysphere.html/ [cracked.com]

      Consider it fortunate that the public (or, MSM) considers a tech/science guy worthy of following. Asking for more would be terribly inconsiderate. Someone might have to push aside an NBA star to make room for another tech kind of guy.

      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday June 29 2018, @03:26PM

        by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Friday June 29 2018, @03:26PM (#700252) Journal

        The number of celebs you can be peripherally aware of must be higher than Dunbar's number, although not infinite.

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      • (Score: 5, Informative) by AthanasiusKircher on Friday June 29 2018, @03:54PM (3 children)

        by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Friday June 29 2018, @03:54PM (#700264) Journal

        Huh?

        Dunbar's number has to do with a supposed limit on simultaneous stable social relationships a person can maintain. It has nothing to do with how many people you only "know" as an acquaintance or whatever, let alone people (like celebrities) you have no relationship with whatsoever, only a one-sided interest. (Those latter numbers, as noted in your link, have only to do with limits on long-term mempry, this usually being a much larger number.)

        Once more, a bunch of links purporting to say one thing but actually not supporting your argument at all... But hey, it looks impressive.

        Really mastering the art of fake news.

        • (Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Friday June 29 2018, @04:07PM (2 children)

          by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Friday June 29 2018, @04:07PM (#700267) Journal

          Oh, I will note that last link about the Monkeysphere gets closer to on point, but it has basically nothing to do with Dunbar's number, which some Cracked.com editor appears to misunderstand as well. David Wong does have a valid point about how we dehumanize people more than farther they are from our communities... It's just a point about something different (which if he read any sociology from the past 50 years, he's probably have better sources for).

          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday June 29 2018, @05:18PM (1 child)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 29 2018, @05:18PM (#700286) Journal

            Every bit of what I've linked to has a central theme: the upright apes aren't all that very smart, and there are limits to the number of people they can keep track of. The greater community of upright apes has very limited capacity to keep track of serious tech minded people. They would rather spend that capacity on mindless endeavors such as photoshopped asses and such.

            • (Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Friday June 29 2018, @06:26PM

              by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Friday June 29 2018, @06:26PM (#700309) Journal

              What you just said may all be true. But the basis of "keeping track" of people you are in relationships with is very different (and cognitively much more intensive) from keeping track of random facts about something (celebrities, lists of plant phyla, types of subatomic particles, what you need to buy at the grocery store, etc.).

              Or at least that distinction was the entire basis of Dunbar's number. If you want to smear all of those things together and claim they're all basically a similar cognitive process, you shouldn't cite Dunbar, since you just undermined most of the premise of his research that came up with that number. (Personally, I would agree that Dunbar's assumptions may be overblown, but that's the whole basis for the claim of limited number of people to "keep track of." )

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by frojack on Friday June 29 2018, @05:52PM (1 child)

      by frojack (1554) on Friday June 29 2018, @05:52PM (#700298) Journal

      Yeah, I'm tired of the hero worship.

      I'm far more tired of all the Tall Poppy Hate.

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      • (Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Friday June 29 2018, @11:45PM

        by bzipitidoo (4388) on Friday June 29 2018, @11:45PM (#700447) Journal

        They often go together, do they not? Reduce one, and you reduce the other.

  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday June 29 2018, @02:42PM

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Friday June 29 2018, @02:42PM (#700235)

    This reminds me of when Google started whittling down their lavish child-care policy from "all employees" to "just those employees that are important to the VP in charge of the program."

    ita semper

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 29 2018, @03:00PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 29 2018, @03:00PM (#700240)

    Google didn't do anything particularly innovative. They had more servers and they didn't even bother trying to index anything correctly and then when they had enough marketshare they started engaging in illegal trade practices to shut others out.

    To this day we all suffer from low-quality search engines as a result as Google still doesn't bother to properly index sites or have any idea what the pages say.

    In this case Musk is somebody who should, under no circumstances, be allowed near a company. Tesla is probably going to go bankrupt in the coming recession as people get sick of waiting for orders, can't afford to pay for their order and has to compete with other businesses that are actually good investments.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by frojack on Friday June 29 2018, @06:06PM

      by frojack (1554) on Friday June 29 2018, @06:06PM (#700300) Journal

      They had more servers and they didn't even bother trying to index anything correctly

      Could you please explain what "index anything correctly" means in your world?
      Explain in detail how your plan works so much better that Google's (which is pretty much what all the other search engines try to do).

      Why should Google bother having any idea what the "pages say". It indexes them by every word.

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