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posted by martyb on Sunday July 01 2018, @09:00PM   Printer-friendly
from the 'Good-fences-make-good-neighbors'-/-Mending-Wall-/-Robert-Frost dept.

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-mexico-border-history-photos-2017-4:

One of the Trump administration's latest immigration policies has come under fire, after Homeland Security figures revealed that ICE is separating families at the US-Mexico border.

Between May 5 and June 9, border officials separated more than 2,300 children from 2,206 parents, the DHS said Tuesday. The policy, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced in early May, enforces "zero-tolerance" regulations on those who enter the US without documentation. Any migrant who attempts to cross the southern border — even those seeking asylum — is now being prosecuted.

Following mounting pressure from both sides of the aisle, Trump signed an executive order that he said will stop family separation at the border. But the fate of immigrant children already in custody remains unclear, and the order still faces legal obstacles.

The goal of establishing a firm physical boundary to separate the US from Mexico is nothing new. In the country that has the world's largest immigrant population, American presidential administrations have tried tightening security along the border for around a century.

Though the divide was formally established in 1824, the US didn't launch its official Border Patrol until 1924. Inspection and holding stations were created after that, followed by the construction of miles of fences with barbed wire and steel barriers over the next few decades.

The included pictures and captions speak of the changing attitudes towards Mexicans and their efforts to cross the border over the years.


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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by jelizondo on Sunday July 01 2018, @11:37PM (6 children)

    by jelizondo (653) Subscriber Badge on Sunday July 01 2018, @11:37PM (#701098) Journal

    Two things struck me looking at the pictures. One, the old pictures clearly show customs/immigration officers doing their job and two, when names are given, they are like “Guillermo Reza” or “Margarita Anaya”.

    On the first topic, try today taking a picture anywhere near a customs/immigration office, let alone of the officers. I don’t know for sure, but I’ll bet you’ll be in jail promptly. (Aren’t they public servants and we should be able to take their pictures doing their job?)

    Now, the names. Hispanic names. Not Anglo. So the difference between one guy trying to get in (legally or not) and the guy already in the US is simply some piece of paper. If they (Mexicans, Salvadorans, Guatemalans, whatever) are pure evil, why are some of them guarding the fucking border? I’ll tell you, they are people; not much different from you or me.

    Back when I was a young one, people who smoked pot were always characterized as violent criminals. Because I have always have friends who smoke pot (or smoked, some are gone), I knew it was a lie, they are not violent criminals. Because I know many Mexicans, Cubans, Colombians and what not, I know they are not violent criminals. They are people, pure and simple.

    Yep, some bad apples are to be found. But that is true of any group of people.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 01 2018, @11:41PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 01 2018, @11:41PM (#701099)

    God knows why citizens in Los Angeles, San Diego, Santa Monica may have Spanish surnames. Look - 45% of 2nd and 3rd generation Hispanic immigrants in some districts voted for Trump because of the immigration issue. There's legal immigration and illegal immigration, the latter illegal for good reasons.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by takyon on Monday July 02 2018, @12:43AM

    by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Monday July 02 2018, @12:43AM (#701124) Journal

    On the first topic, try today taking a picture anywhere near a customs/immigration office, let alone of the officers. I don’t know for sure, but I’ll bet you’ll be in jail promptly. (Aren’t they public servants and we should be able to take their pictures doing their job?)

    Not necessarily.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=immigration+first+amendment+audit [youtube.com]

    I haven't sought out these kinds of First Amendment audits specifically (they have probably increased a lot in the last few months), but I assume that most vids consist of clueless security guards confronting photographers on public roads, but backing off, with a few instances of people being "detained", and then the rare bogus arrest or two. It certainly isn't "start filming, go directly to jail" unless there are cowardly tyrants on the scene.

    The great NewsNowHouston channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC39jLNl2UpxDeYVYCToA56A/videos [youtube.com]

    Basically, look up First Amendment audits and you'll see a community of people testing their right to record public officials all over the place. Customs, border crossings, federal buildings, police stations, etc. Or the right to record private buildings from a public street, which also triggers clueless private security guards. When this has been tested in court, it usually goes well for the auditor (see Turner v. Driver [soylentnews.org], and here's his 1A audit playlist [youtube.com]).

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  • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Monday July 02 2018, @07:42AM (3 children)

    by cubancigar11 (330) on Monday July 02 2018, @07:42AM (#701228) Homepage Journal

    Oh, aren't you on to something [economist.com]. The whole "invasion" thing is a very anti-ethnic common propaganda tool since time immemorial.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 02 2018, @09:00AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 02 2018, @09:00AM (#701245)

      It only we could ask the Neanderthals how the whole multiculturalism thing worked out for them.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 02 2018, @12:32PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 02 2018, @12:32PM (#701301)

        It worked out well for USA! Just make sure you do it normally and not like Germany where they discourage Asians to come and instead focus on Syrian refugees.

        • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Monday July 02 2018, @01:19PM

          by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Monday July 02 2018, @01:19PM (#701325) Homepage Journal

          I'll tell you what, I think I might have more Indian blood than a lot of the so-called Indians that are trying to open up the reservations. I looked at one of them -- well, I won’t go into the whole story, but I can tell you, I said to him, "I think I have more Indian blood in me than you have in you." And he laughed at me and he sort of acknowledged that I was right. But it’s a joke. It’s really a joke.

          Connecticut, I think if you’ve ever been up there, you would truly say that these are not Indians. One of them was telling me his name is Chief Running Water Sitting Bull. And I said, "that’s a long name." He said, "well, just call me Ricky Sanders." So this is one of the Indians.