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posted by martyb on Tuesday July 03 2018, @11:08AM   Printer-friendly
from the new-stuff dept.

gHacks reports

The Linux Mint team has released Linux Mint 19 final, codename Tara, in [editions using] the desktop [environments] Cinnamon, Mate, [or] Xfce.

Linux Mint users who run Linux Mint 18.3 or a beta version of Linux Mint 19 will be able to upgrade to the new [release] directly. Those who don't need to upgrade to Mint 18.3 first or install the new version of Linux Mint manually instead.

[...] One of the big new features of Linux Mint 19 is Timeshift. It is part of all [three editions of Mint 19]. Timeshift creates snapshots of the system so that users may restore a previous version of the system using the functionality.

Thanks to Timeshift, you can go back in time and restore your computer to the last functional system snapshot. If anything breaks, you can go back to the previous snapshot and it's as if the problem never happened.

It works similarly to [MSFT] Windows' System Restore feature.

Along with support for Timeshift comes a change in the Update Manager. The Linux Mint 19 update manager suggests [that you] install all updates in the new [release] of the operating system instead of a selection of updates.

The main idea behind the change is that users and admins may restore a previous system snapshot using Timeshift if the installation of updates causes issues. It is still possible, however, to deselect updates so that they are not installed.

Linux Mint 19 comes with one additional update-related [change]. Any user may enable automatic updates in the update preferences now. [In the past,] Linux Mint did not offer a switch to turn on automatic updates [...] because it required advanced knowledge of the distribution to restore broken systems.

English isn't Martin Brinkmann's first language and he's still becoming familiar with Linux and Mint and their terminologies.

To avoid some confusion, note that comments from their Mint 19 Beta article, earlier in June, have been folded into their new article.

In the comments there, AnorKnee Merce notes

[A} Timeshift [snapshot] will take up about 6GB of disk space in the Root or / partition. If this partition is [smaller than] 20GB, [an] "out of disk space" condition will likely occur = a borked system

Additionally, Mint is based on Ubuntu, which is, in turn, based on Debian. All of those use systemd as "an init".


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 03 2018, @11:53AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 03 2018, @11:53AM (#701851)

    I liked version(s) 17. The LiveCD included multimedia codecs. Now that Mint does not, I have no use for it. Yes, the software can be installed later, but again I only wanted the LiveCD with codecs. I don't like the hobbled update options and there are other factors keeping me away. But that's okay, Linux is about choice.

  • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Tuesday July 03 2018, @03:19PM (5 children)

    by tangomargarine (667) on Tuesday July 03 2018, @03:19PM (#701944)

    You can install the codecs *while you're running live.* It's probably like all of 2 extra clicks.

    And I assume them not including the codecs is for legal reasons.

    hobbled update options

    Elaborate?

    --
    "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 03 2018, @03:34PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 03 2018, @03:34PM (#701951)

      Yep. Exactly what I did.

      And i love 19 so far. Fastest install. Fastest running and nice looking. It just "feels" right.

    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @10:13AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @10:13AM (#702483)

      You can install the codecs *while you're running live.* It's probably like all of 2 extra clicks.

      No shit? That wasn't the point. The point was the disc WITH codecs could be used WITHOUT a network connection. Yes, I am aware you can save files to a flash drive and bring it with you and manually install or however else you want to do it. I liked Mint 17 because it came preloaded with codecs and I could take the disc anywhere, especially in places were there IS NO INTERNET and use it with the codecs ON THE LIVECD. Not everyone appreciates or allows strange flash drives or external hard drives with possible firmware malware.

      Elaborate?

      No need, JFGI. There are entire pages or more explaining how shitty the update options are and why you may as well install some flavor of Ubuntu, or better yet, Debian.

      • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Thursday July 05 2018, @03:13PM (2 children)

        by tangomargarine (667) on Thursday July 05 2018, @03:13PM (#703005)

        How about explaining what you're complaining about, instead of just assuming I already understand you, jerk. You didn't mention anything about network access at all in your previous post.

        No need, JFGI. There are entire pages or more explaining how shitty the update options are

        I'm going to take this to mean that you don't have an actual reason.

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        "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 06 2018, @11:11AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 06 2018, @11:11AM (#703445)

          >How about explaining what you're complaining about, instead of just assuming I already understand you, jerk.

          It's already been solved for you. If you don't like me, that's fine. But I know you can call me something better than a jerk.

          >You didn't mention anything about network access at all in your previous post.

          But it was mentioned in the 2nd post. So now you know.

          >I'm going to take this to mean that you don't have an actual reason.

          Whatever makes you happy. It was a JFGI because I've already wasted MY life researching Linux Mint and the pros and cons. I've already wasted MY time reading and discovering that, IMO, Mint sucks for me and many others when it comes to updates (and other reasons). If you want to waste some time, I recommend you JFGI. If not, I'm just going to take this to mean that you would much rather debate, and it probably wouldn't matter what the subject was anyway, because it's about debate/karma points.

          -- quoting this since the original was buried -- this will probably be buried too because it's about facts and not about posting when under the influence of emotions --

                  You can install the codecs *while you're running live.* It's probably like all of 2 extra clicks.

          No shit? That wasn't the point. The point was the disc WITH codecs could be used WITHOUT a network connection. Yes, I am aware you can save files to a flash drive and bring it with you and manually install or however else you want to do it. I liked Mint 17 because it came preloaded with codecs and I could take the disc anywhere, especially in places were there IS NO INTERNET and use it with the codecs ON THE LIVECD. Not everyone appreciates or allows strange flash drives or external hard drives with possible firmware malware.

                  Elaborate?

          No need, JFGI. There are entire pages or more explaining how shitty the update options are and why you may as well install some flavor of Ubuntu, or better yet, Debian.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 07 2018, @08:29AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 07 2018, @08:29AM (#703768)

            Here it is again, since of course it was buried again, so the user feels good and doesn't have to reply:

            >How about explaining what you're complaining about, instead of just assuming I already understand you, jerk.

            It's already been solved for you. If you don't like me, that's fine. But I know you can call me something better than a jerk.

            >You didn't mention anything about network access at all in your previous post.

            But it was mentioned in the 2nd post. So now you know.

            >I'm going to take this to mean that you don't have an actual reason.

            Whatever makes you happy. It was a JFGI because I've already wasted MY life researching Linux Mint and the pros and cons. I've already wasted MY time reading and discovering that, IMO, Mint sucks for me and many others when it comes to updates (and other reasons). If you want to waste some time, I recommend you JFGI. If not, I'm just going to take this to mean that you would much rather debate, and it probably wouldn't matter what the subject was anyway, because it's about debate/karma points.

                    -- quoting this since the original was buried -- this will probably be buried too because it's about facts and not about posting when under the influence of emotions --

                                    You can install the codecs *while you're running live.* It's probably like all of 2 extra clicks.

                    No shit? That wasn't the point. The point was the disc WITH codecs could be used WITHOUT a network connection. Yes, I am aware you can save files to a flash drive and bring it with you and manually install or however else you want to do it. I liked Mint 17 because it came preloaded with codecs and I could take the disc anywhere, especially in places were there IS NO INTERNET and use it with the codecs ON THE LIVECD. Not everyone appreciates or allows strange flash drives or external hard drives with possible firmware malware.

                                    Elaborate?

                    No need, JFGI. There are entire pages or more explaining how shitty the update options are and why you may as well install some flavor of Ubuntu, or better yet, Debian.