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posted by CoolHand on Tuesday July 03 2018, @07:19PM   Printer-friendly
from the just-a-lil-bit-of-spyin' dept.

Submitted via IRC for SoyGuest52256

According to the patent, spotted by Metro, the system would use 'a non-human hearable digital sound' to activate your phone's microphone.

This noise, which could be a sound so high-pitched that humans cannot hear it, would contain a 'machine recognisable' set of Morse code-style beeps

Once your phone hears the trigger, it would begin to record 'ambient noise' in your home, such as the sound of your air conditioning unit, plumbing noises from your pipes and even your movements from one room to another.

Your phone would even listen in on 'distant human speech' and 'creaks from thermal contraction', according to the patent.

TV advertisers would use this data to determine whether you had muted your TV or moved to a different room when their promotional clip played.

Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5882587/Facebook-wants-hide-secret-inaudible-messages-TV-ads-force-phone-record-audio.html


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by c0lo on Tuesday July 03 2018, @07:45PM (7 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 03 2018, @07:45PM (#702131) Journal

    Why isn't this illegal?

    Because lotsa usians cry "But mah freedoms..." when it comes to regulations.
    Just read the recent stories on "EU GDPR" and feel the attitude of "Spying is wrong, but making spying illegal is the worserest that can be". Beat me if I can understand their logic, if there is one.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by VLM on Tuesday July 03 2018, @08:17PM (6 children)

    by VLM (445) on Tuesday July 03 2018, @08:17PM (#702147)

    "Spying is wrong, but making spying illegal is the worserest that can be"

    GDPR is using a nuke to swat flies.

    A good SN automobile analogy is a handful of car mechanics were hacking a handful of dash cams usually used to record road accidents leading to people being nervous about having sex in their rental car which they probably shouldn't be doing in front of someone else's dash cam anyway, so the logical solution to the problem is requiring all employees at the car mechanic shop to wear blindfolds all the time unless the customer opts in to give them permission to remove the blindfold, and part of the GDPR is you can't coerce the customer so if they insist on getting an engine rebuilt while the mechanic's blindfold remains on, well, you have to legally find a way to do it while making a profit or cease doing business in the EU. Which mostly leads to a delicious self selection where all the honest mechanics leave, and the only ones left over are those willing to lie and/or break the law to provide service. "Sure dude I'll keep my blindfold on, snicker snicker" as one of the few remaining mechanic peeks thru the holes in the blindfold while reaching for your dash cam's SD card, LOL. And tons of political propaganda that you wouldn't want your car mechanic staring up a womans skirt and streaming it to internet pr0n sites for profit, therefore "its exactly the same" if a mechanic glances at your engine's oil dipstick for three seconds, because, you know, "girl fun parts" "engine crankcase" whats the difference to non technical people and propaganda spreaders anyway?

    To some extent, the USA has the failed war on drugs and the EU felt left out, so they're excited to be starting a failing war on non-privacy. We got us a small problem, but I'm sure enough heavy handed government regulation can find a way to make it worse for everyone...

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 03 2018, @08:31PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 03 2018, @08:31PM (#702152)

      you have to legally find a way to do it while making a profit or cease doing business in the EU. Which mostly leads to a delicious self selection where all the honest mechanics leave, and the only ones left over are those willing to lie and/or break the law to provide service.

      What a great logic and exquisite analogies!
      It's like S/N, which continues to do business in Europe, therefore it must be looking up under the women skirts, did I get it right?
      'cause everyone here know TMB is a dirty lying pervert when it comes to the privates, you say it yourself, no reason to distrust you.

      • (Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday July 03 2018, @08:49PM

        by VLM (445) on Tuesday July 03 2018, @08:49PM (#702162)

        It's like S/N, which continues to do business in Europe, therefore it must be looking up under the women skirts, did I get it right?

        Yeah exactly, of course you'd think streaming upskirt videos would make more money than SN's three grand per funding drive, but apparently upOldMensKilts.com doesn't pay as much for hot video as we'd all assume. (As I nervously point my videoconference webcam away from me)

    • (Score: 2) by fido_dogstoyevsky on Tuesday July 03 2018, @10:42PM

      by fido_dogstoyevsky (131) <axehandleNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Tuesday July 03 2018, @10:42PM (#702215)

      GDPR is using a nuke to swat flies.

      It's the only way to be sure.

      A good SN automobile analogy is a handful of car mechanics were hacking a handful of dash cams...[while rebuilding the engine]

      THAT is a good working definition of privacy invasion.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 03 2018, @11:46PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 03 2018, @11:46PM (#702244)

      GDPR is using a nuke to swat flies.

      You and your kind are not flies. You are a parasites. And a nuke is the only way to be sure.

      • (Score: 2) by kazzie on Wednesday July 04 2018, @01:29PM (1 child)

        by kazzie (5309) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 04 2018, @01:29PM (#702530)

        So that'll just leave the cockroaches alive, then?

        • (Score: 2) by pvanhoof on Wednesday July 04 2018, @08:04PM

          by pvanhoof (4638) on Wednesday July 04 2018, @08:04PM (#702721) Homepage

          Cockroaches won't kill me. Parasites do. Parasites out. Cockroaches I'll deal with later (a EU citizen).