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posted by martyb on Wednesday July 04 2018, @03:43PM   Printer-friendly
from the let-me-out-of-here! dept.

In a legal setback for the Trump administration's immigration policies, a federal judge in Washington, D.C., has ruled that the government may not arbitrarily detain people seeking asylum.

The ruling comes in a case challenging the administration's policy of detaining people even after they have passed a credible fear interview and await a hearing on their asylum claim.

The lead plaintiff in the case is a teacher from Haiti, Ansly Damus, who has been confined in Ohio for more than a year-and-a-half. He fled his homeland fearing violence and political persecution and asked for asylum in the United States. An immigration judge granted him asylum not just once, but twice. But Damus remains locked up indefinitely as the government appeals those decisions.

U.S. District Judge James Boasberg, in his 38-page opinion, said that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement violated its own procedures by not granting Damus release under what's known as humanitarian parole.

"This Opinion does no more than hold the Government accountable to its own policy, which recently has been honored more in the breach than the observance. Having extended the safeguards of the Parole Directive to asylum seekers, ICE must now ensure that such protections are realized," Judge Boasberg wrote.

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/02/625504723/federal-judge-orders-administration-to-end-arbitrary-detention-of-asylum-seekers


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @04:12PM (20 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @04:12PM (#702592)

    This is America. If you want Human rights, why don't you move to Humania. What's wrong, such a country does not exist? I wonder why...

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @04:25PM (18 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @04:25PM (#702595)

    Not sure what America you grew up in, but where I come from America does[1] stand for human rights, starting with the Declaration of Independence -- conveniently today is the anniversary of the publication of that document, which has empowered people around the world. Worth (re)reading in case you don't remember it.

    [1] if I was feeling sarcastic I would replace "does" with "did, until recently".

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @04:38PM (12 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @04:38PM (#702604)

      I am sitting out the 4th today, because it has *NEVER* meant that. And all the rosy words and political action in support of that stance has ignoring the glaring and unremedied flaws in America due to both legal and cultural norms which still exist today. Without a far more radical shift in mentality/personal and social growth than America and Americans have shown themselves capable of, that sort of idealized society will never exist until a new nation takes form where on the ashes of America or somewhere in a better position for a cultural and political revolution. The current world atmosphere does not seem to be engendering a successful enaction of that revolution, however.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday July 04 2018, @04:48PM (11 children)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday July 04 2018, @04:48PM (#702610) Homepage Journal

        You're making the classic mistake of allowing perfect to be the enemy of good. Would you like your character held to such a standard?

        --
        My rights don't end where your fear begins.
        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Snow on Wednesday July 04 2018, @04:53PM (5 children)

          by Snow (1601) on Wednesday July 04 2018, @04:53PM (#702613) Journal

          The 4th of July is a holiday for you Americans to show pride in your country.

          Some Americans are not proud of their country.

          • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @05:32PM (4 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @05:32PM (#702640)

            The 4th of July is a holiday for you Americans to show pride in your country.

            Some Americans are not proud of their country.

            Correction, some Americans are not proud of our government. There is a difference.

            • (Score: 5, Insightful) by TheGratefulNet on Wednesday July 04 2018, @05:48PM (3 children)

              by TheGratefulNet (659) on Wednesday July 04 2018, @05:48PM (#702648)

              actually, given what the US has done over the past few decades, and been allowed to do, I'm not so sure I love my fellow americans so much.

              we have cheered on the cheeto and we have not, as a nation, admitted our mistake, yet.

              the concept of america is good; but our implementation leaves a lot to be desired.

              --
              "It is now safe to switch off your computer."
              • (Score: -1, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Wednesday July 04 2018, @07:35PM (1 child)

                by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Wednesday July 04 2018, @07:35PM (#702701) Homepage

                Whenever I see migrants locked up in cages, I cry tears...

                Tears of JOY! HahahahahaHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAA!

                America, FUCK YEAH!

                • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @08:50PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @08:50PM (#702732)

                  "locked up in cages" is what the SJW news tells you. What's really funny here is that Obama did the same thing with 10X more "Asylum-Seekers", but nobody cried Social Justice about it until Trump took office. SJW's should be deported to some shit stained country.

              • (Score: 2) by bitstream on Wednesday July 04 2018, @09:40PM

                by bitstream (6144) on Wednesday July 04 2018, @09:40PM (#702745) Journal

                Voters will perform not better than they are (dis)informed..

        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @05:26PM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @05:26PM (#702637)

          A country whose government conducts mass surveillance on the populace is not "good". A country whose government is engaged in 7+ interventions overseas - many of which were not declared by Congress - fighting enemies that didn't attack us is not "good". A country that has a drug war and does not respect people's fundamental right to control their own bodies is not "good". I could go on and on, but the US is not merely 'not perfect'; it is much worse than that. And no amount of 'But the US isn't as bad as X!' fallacies will change that.

          • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @05:44PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @05:44PM (#702646)

            I wish I could peak into an alternate reality where a Democrat POTUS bowed to arab oil barons, said the Russians poop rainbows and Putin is the best thing since Trump, and buddied up to North Korea.

            I would REALLY like to see the reactions of the RWNJs around here, they'd be losing their collective shit SO HARD! Hatred is a powerful and scary thing, and that is all that fuels these people into blind faith in a broken system.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @10:33PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @10:33PM (#702756)

              Democrats are just as pro-establishment, even while they hate it, as the Republicans are. I've been arguing constantly with my family over this for the past 2+ years (former 8 was mostly with republican family members hating on obama every excuse they got.) This time around the arguements are both right and left and both call you an apologist for the other when you say something they don't agree with.

              I have been feeling quietly ashamed of american for almost two decades now, and it is starting to less quiet even as I grow more ashamed. Hopefully my opportunity to emigrate will happen soon and a better future found in the wider world. Because it isn't happening here, and at the rate it is going, there are going to be fewer places to escape to, while the going is still good.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @11:22PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @11:22PM (#702768)

                Fair enough, but my post wasnt meant as pro democrat just calling out the RWNJs round here.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @05:47PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @05:47PM (#702647)

          Your head is so far up your butt you think shit smells like flowers. The US is an amazing place, but if you really can't comprehend the insanely huge number of negatives we engage in then I dunno, lobotomy time?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @04:56PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @04:56PM (#702617)

      If it's empowered people around the world, why do they still want to go to the U.S.?

      Also, the Declaration of Independence actually has no legal force. It's a political document telling Great Britain, and King George III, to go pound sand. But the current U.S. government is based on the Constitution, not the Declaration.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @05:22PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @05:22PM (#702634)

        the current U.S. government is based on the Constitution

        *blink*

        *blink*

        BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 05 2018, @03:14AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 05 2018, @03:14AM (#702814)

          They said it was based on the Constitution, not that the government is actually following it.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by Mykl on Wednesday July 04 2018, @11:50PM (1 child)

      by Mykl (1112) on Wednesday July 04 2018, @11:50PM (#702773)

      Sooo, that Declaration of Independence that said "All men are created equal"...

      - Not counting the slaves at the time
      - Not counting women (admittedly, it does say "All men")

      America is actually closer to actually standing for human rights today than it ever was in the past, and that's a scary thought.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Thexalon on Thursday July 05 2018, @12:00PM

        by Thexalon (636) on Thursday July 05 2018, @12:00PM (#702931)

        Also not counting poor white men.

        --
        The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
  • (Score: 2) by Mykl on Wednesday July 04 2018, @11:44PM

    by Mykl (1112) on Wednesday July 04 2018, @11:44PM (#702772)

    This is America. If you want Human rights, why don't you move to Humania. What's wrong, such a country does not exist? I wonder why...

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