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posted by martyb on Friday July 20 2018, @11:01PM   Printer-friendly
from the sue-or-be-suet? dept.

Rolling Stone:

When a U.S. citizen heard he was on his own country’s drone target list, he wasn’t sure he believed it. After five near-misses, he does – and is suing the United States to contest his own execution
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With Reprieve’s help, Kareem did what the system asks a law-abiding American citizen with a grievance to do. He sued, filing a complaint in district court in Washington, D.C., on March 30th, 2017, asking the U.S. government to take him off the Kill List, at least until he had a chance to challenge the evidence against him.

The case, still unresolved more than a year later, has awesome implications not just for Kareem but for all Americans – all people everywhere, for that matter.

It’s not a stretch to say that it’s one of the most important lawsuits to ever cross the desk of a federal judge. The core of the Bill of Rights is in play, and a wrong result could formalize a slide into authoritarianism that began long ago, but accelerated after 9/11.

He needs to take the matter to Information Retrieval, but heaven help him if he doesn't get his receipt stamped first.

[Ed note: It's a long read, but provides extensive background on the US government's kill list development, implementation, and complications in trying to do anything about it.]


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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by requerdanos on Friday July 20 2018, @11:26PM (3 children)

    by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 20 2018, @11:26PM (#710159) Journal

    what about other country's intelligence agencies and their shit lists? Why don't we hear more about Russia's spooks

    Here is a link to several of the hundreds of recent news stories about Russia's hit lists [google.com] just in case you missed it, as you claim.

    Though the NSA is bad news for sure, if you favor decentralized government and disfavor covert shenanigans, I don't recall seeing the NSA implicated in any of these. The U.S. president, sure, he's buddies with their president, but the NSA, no.

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  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 20 2018, @11:39PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 20 2018, @11:39PM (#710160)

    I'm not so interested in assassination methods and events, but more about their ways of spying on their own citizens.

    You recall the CIA data dump on WikiLeaks detailing various root-kit software? Yeah, more of that but from other countries outside the USA. You know, the rest of the world?

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by requerdanos on Saturday July 21 2018, @12:00AM (1 child)

      by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Saturday July 21 2018, @12:00AM (#710170) Journal

      Yes, I know the rest of the world. I have visited four of the seven continents and speak two languages fluently and study two more.

      It's the USA boogeyman in this article because the USA is working to kill someone extrajudicially. Russia is in the headlines for similar dark deeds.

      I, too, would like to know what means that Russia uses, and the СССР before it used, to invade the privacy of the people living there.

      But going around killing people with virtual impunity is, I would submit, probably a worse thing, even though the domestic spy-and-control operations affect more people.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Saturday July 21 2018, @08:53AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday July 21 2018, @08:53AM (#710327) Journal

        I, too, would like to know what means that Russia uses, and the СССР before it used, to invade the privacy of the people living there.

        They used low tech means. Most of the time, they invaded that privacy by sending in NKVD agents. [wikipedia.org]

        The NKVD undertook mass extrajudicial executions of untold numbers of citizens, and conceived, populated and administered the Gulag system of forced labour camps. Their agents were responsible for the repression of the Kulaks, and the mass deportations of entire nationalities to uninhabited regions of the country. They oversaw the protection of Soviet borders and espionage (which included political assassinations), and enforced Soviet policy in communist movements and puppet governments in other countries, most notably the repression and massacres in Poland.

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        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford