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posted by mrpg on Saturday July 21 2018, @08:25AM   Printer-friendly
from the be-evil dept.

Submitted via IRC for AndyTheAbsurd

All over the western world banks are shutting down cash machines and branches. They are trying to push you into using their digital payments and digital banking infrastructure. Just like Google wants everyone to access and navigate the broader internet via its privately controlled search portal, so financial institutions want everyone to access and navigate the broader economy through their systems.

Another aim is to cut costs in order to boost profits. Branches require staff. Replacing them with standardised self-service apps allows the senior managers of financial institutions to directly control and monitor interactions with customers.

Banks, of course, tell us a different story about why they do this. I recently got a letter from my bank telling me that they are shutting down local branches because "customers are turning to digital", and they are thus "responding to changing customer preferences". I am one of the customers they are referring to, but I never asked them to shut down the branches.

Source: The cashless society is a con – and big finance is behind it


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday July 21 2018, @04:50PM (10 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday July 21 2018, @04:50PM (#710480) Journal

    It also says you can get two purebred white goats to have spotted offspring by making them stare at a stripey stick while they fuck. Oh, and that the end of the world would happen, at the outside, around 120AD at the latest.

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  • (Score: 1) by anubi on Monday July 23 2018, @05:45AM (4 children)

    by anubi (2828) on Monday July 23 2018, @05:45AM (#711071) Journal

    This one? [biblehub.com]

    This is one of several passages which really has me confused. I have never gotten a satisfactory answer for it.

    The more typical reaction I get when I ask about it - is more down the line of when Kirk confounds the computer controlling a civilization with a logical fallacy.. like he did with Landrew, Nomad, and Norman. ( TOS ). ( If you are a trekkie, you will know exactly what I am talking about. )

    The one that gets me the most are the young earthers... who look me straight in the face and tell me that God is Truth, God does not Lie. Satan is the Father of Lies! God created the earth just as it is. Fossils and physics and all. God made everything to look and mathematically evaluate as trillions of years old, but in reality its only 6,000 years old. beLIEve! And I go off... God is Truth, but yet he created a LIE. Satan is LIE. bzzt! sputter! input error....error....

    And as I walk away, there they are, all dressed up in suits, Bible in hand, choir behind them, telling me that they are sorry I have chosen the path to HELL.

    If I take those guys too seriously, I will need the services of a mental institution.

    A common reaction I get should I press the issue has references to kicking the dust from ones feet and not placing pearls before swine.

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    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday July 23 2018, @09:28PM (3 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday July 23 2018, @09:28PM (#711451) Journal

      All those people ought to be lit on fire for 20 seconds, just to give them some idea of what it is they say they believe. You know, for perspective's sake. The eternal-torment fetishists are amoral monsters. I've no problem with the idea of people paying for their crimes in the "afterlife," and indeed believe strongly that this *does* happen--but, it's just. What you give, you get. Garbage in, garbage out, and if you did something you can't completely atone for in "Hell" you reincarnate, often in the kind of situation you forced on someone else. Infinite punishment for finite crimes is so far beyond justice that anyone who believes in it is, to my mind, no longer fully human.

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      • (Score: 1) by anubi on Tuesday July 24 2018, @11:38AM (2 children)

        by anubi (2828) on Tuesday July 24 2018, @11:38AM (#711672) Journal

        Yeh... I have grown to have similar disdain for stuff like that.

        It seems more like a computer virus coded for humans.

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        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday July 24 2018, @07:00PM (1 child)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday July 24 2018, @07:00PM (#711827) Journal

          The term you're looking for is "memetic kill agent" or "cognitohazard." It is possible to essentially mine the human mind with logic bombs.

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          • (Score: 1) by anubi on Wednesday July 25 2018, @06:07AM

            by anubi (2828) on Wednesday July 25 2018, @06:07AM (#712197) Journal

            Thanks, Azuma... closest I had was the mandela effect.

            Those are some quite interesting phrases to duckduckgo.

            After I peruse those a bit, I think I will recognize it when others are pulling them on me. Seems cults have studied these memes a lot. So have salesmen and leadership types.

            You know, if too many people become aware of these tricks, it will be much harder for "leaders" to pull the wool on us. I was only at the first level of parsing businesstalk for undefined variables.

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  • (Score: 2) by Bot on Monday July 23 2018, @11:09PM (4 children)

    by Bot (3902) on Monday July 23 2018, @11:09PM (#711479) Journal

    > and that the end of the world would happen, at the outside, around 120AD at the latest
    Somebody cut some verses off your bible? keep on reading the whole chapter. We already been through this in some older discussion.

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    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday July 24 2018, @07:02PM (3 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday July 24 2018, @07:02PM (#711829) Journal

      No they did not, and "we" haven't been through this, since midway through you plugged your ears and stopped listening. The word used in the phrase "...this generation shall not pass away..." is the Koine "genea," which indeed does mean one single literal specified generation.

      You're one of the ones I'd like to see lit on fire, and maybe for more than the 20 seconds, since you seem to think you've "already won" and your demonic God is actually going to treat you right if it existed. You, my friend, are going to be very unpleasantly surprised when you die.

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      • (Score: 2) by Bot on Wednesday July 25 2018, @05:49AM (2 children)

        by Bot (3902) on Wednesday July 25 2018, @05:49AM (#712194) Journal

        > is the Koine "genea," which indeed does mean one single literal specified generation
        the generation that sees all the aforementioned things, no? In one of the earlier passages it says when YOU see these things.

        You are taking literally one that said "I will rebuild the temple in three days", yet didn't, yet did. Yet you still have to figure out why the day and the hour CANNOT be known, while the year can because your particular interpretation depends on it.

        > since you seem to think you've "already won"
        I take things for granted when it suits the discussion. If I am discussing the Bible I don't say "the hypothetical" god.
        My comment history is out there, no?
        As for winning, I just noticed that the supposedly rational atheist is the most full of sh!t religion imaginable. Give me turtles all the way down anyday.

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        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday July 26 2018, @03:48AM (1 child)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday July 26 2018, @03:48AM (#712906) Journal

          I'm a Deist, you auto-fellating jackoff. I believe in God. YOU do not; you've admitted before that your entire religion boils down to might makes right, and somehow it never occurs to you that any being that acts like as much of a monster as Yahweh might not always be good to YOU just because you kiss its ass.

          In fact, here's a fun tidbit: the probability of you, Bot, spending eternity in Hell is 100% if your God is real, by simple law of large numbers. As time T approaches infinity, anything that can happen will happen at least once. It is not a logical or physical impossibility for your God to throw you into Hell for any reason or no reason at all; indeed, nothing could possibly prevent it, as your God is said to be omnipotent and absolutely-sovereign. He also answers to no one in terms of morals, so it's not as if even if [you think] he made you a promise not to, he couldn't or wouldn't break it.

          You've invented your God in your own image, Bot. Be very, very glad you're wrong.

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          • (Score: 2) by Bot on Thursday July 26 2018, @04:45PM

            by Bot (3902) on Thursday July 26 2018, @04:45PM (#713213) Journal

            > I'm a Deist, you auto-fellating jackoff.

            You already told me. But the context was your assessment of MY faith, you said one thing, I told you I am more of an antiatheist than a follower because they worship logic only to fail its application, badly.

            As for the rest, I already told you, I don't care about the consequences as long that I am convinced of what I do. I can add that whatever you are convinced of, it's your business. If your interpretation is not necessarily the one, I point an alternative out, that's all. Good hunt for the truth.

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