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posted by Fnord666 on Monday July 23 2018, @01:03PM   Printer-friendly
from the plasma-conduits dept.

Submitted via IRC for AndyTheAbsurd

Experts were able to simulate the mechanism that stabilizes plasma in fusion reactors. This development could take humankind one step closer to a clean, unlimited source of fusion energy.

So...practical commercial fusion is still 50 years way (just like it's been for the past 60 years), right?

Source: https://www.techtimes.com/articles/232452/20180719/scientists-discover-how-to-stabilize-plasma-in-fusion-reactors.htm


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  • (Score: 2) by The Shire on Tuesday July 24 2018, @11:26AM (2 children)

    by The Shire (5824) on Tuesday July 24 2018, @11:26AM (#711668)

    I'm going to need a source on that, I don't believe thats at all true. It's certainly more expensive but manufacturing solar panels does not consume more oil than the equivalent in lifetime power generation.

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  • (Score: 2) by legont on Tuesday July 24 2018, @01:51PM (1 child)

    by legont (4179) on Tuesday July 24 2018, @01:51PM (#711716)

    Even if I give you sources, you are not likely to accept them, sorry.

    Anyway, in addition to manufacturing, solar panels need to be delivered, repaired, and disposed. The current model is to manufacture abroad and, hopefully, dispose abroad. Transportation is also partially abroad. What powers all of this?

    The whole "green" part of solar is simply exporting dirt to China. One day, and this day may already came, China stops accepting other countries shit.

    That bring me to disposal (yes, they are made of some nasty stuff). Do you think consumer will pay the price of solar panels again to dispose of them? No, they are going into the woods nearby and clean up will eventually cost a lot.

    The whole green idea, as it is implemented now, is simply export of pollution in space and time.

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    • (Score: 2) by The Shire on Tuesday July 24 2018, @03:06PM

      by The Shire (5824) on Tuesday July 24 2018, @03:06PM (#711743)

      >Even if I give you sources, you are not likely to accept them, sorry.
      Not sure why you would say that. I'm always looking to be persuaded that I'm wrong about things, how else does anyone find out whats actually right?

      I think you would be very surprised how little fuel per unit is burned transporting thousands of cargo containers from China to the US or how little fuel is burned by an 18 wheeler to deliver those panels to their install location. Fuel costs money and companies don't like spending money, they just like taking money.

      But as I've said in other posts, if I had my druthers we would be heavily reliant on nuclear right now. We literally have tons of material already mined and ready to burn. And nuclear can not only produce electricity, it's also quite good at producing hydrogen which is another great fuel option for cars. It's a shame so many react emotionally when you say "nuclear". We should be pushing hard for it, it's very clean.