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Forbes.com has published a piece by contributor Jason Evangelho entitled "5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now".
When I published the highlights of my journey switching from Windows to Linux on my everyday laptop... it became one of my most viewed pieces this year. From where I'm sitting, that tells me a ton of people are interested -- are at least actively curious -- about ditching Windows and making the jump to Linux.
With that in mind, I wanted to present five reasons that may lead you to consider switching. Know that these are subjective, and they're targeted at the average Windows user and not folks who rely on Windows-exclusive applications for a paycheck.
One thing to know right up front: the modern Linux desktop OS is no longer the obtuse, bewildering and command line driven thing it used to be. Not remotely.
It's nice to see a free operating system getting some love in the mainstream press. Forbes running this article is more the story here than desktop Linux having advantages over Windows.
Be sure to read TFA to find out what the five reasons are. (Or see spoiler, below.)
1: Linux Gets Out Of Your Way
2: You're Not A Slave To The Terminal
3: Installing Software Is Even Easier
4: Updates aren't a headache. They're glorious
5: The Linux Community
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 24 2018, @07:25PM (49 children)
Let's be realistic: the main reasons people don't switch to Linux are:
1. Poor software selection
2. Peripherals probably won't work with it
Those are massively important.
If all you want to do is browse the web or run webapps, then sure, Linux is fine. But you know what is even better for that? A Chromebook.
The only software selection that Linux has that is good is for software development.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 24 2018, @07:30PM (1 child)
Si linux is like macOS
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 24 2018, @07:38PM
You are onto something.
Years ago, though, there were some niche software packages that had no equal on the PC. Stuff in graphic arts, photography, music. But even those software producers jumped for Windows and now the Apple version of the same exact program is no better and sometimes worse because primary development is first for Windows, THEN Mac.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 24 2018, @07:47PM (17 children)
As someone who tries to be an intelligent person, I've found the idea of Linux (and FOSS in general) to be very exciting, if only because it offers the possibility of more control over one's computing, and reduced friction in collaborating with like minds.
Alas, this has never quite been the case. Software and hardware is complex, often requires proprietary components anyway, and it's very hard to get people interested even in work that you do for them for free. It's a lot easier just to say "Fuck it!" and then just try to customize yourself to meet the demands of, say, Apple's software, rather than try to customize FOSS to meet your own demands. Life is really short; just pay someone else to figure out the details for you.
(Score: 5, Informative) by bobthecimmerian on Tuesday July 24 2018, @08:45PM (16 children)
I think you're accustomed to a lot of pain, frustration, and cost from proprietary software and you just don't even think about it.
Ever assemble your own PC? It's a great way to save money on the price of a PC. You can often reuse older components. But then you have to install the operating system yourself. My wife's computer had its primary hard drive corrupted, and I had to reinstall Windows 10. The process took three or four hours, starting with entering a 16 or 20 digit alphanumeric activation key. Plus I had to sit through a whole bunch of clicking and waiting as I recreated the accounts for family members, because as I logged in each person I got a "Welcome, please wait while we set up your account" dialog that took up the whole screen for five or ten minutes. Plus I had over a day of Windows updates. Then I had to download and install Firefox, Chrome, LibreOffice, 7-zip, VLC movie player, Minecraft (plus Java), and Steam. The last time I screwed up and wiped out one of my hard drives and reinstalled Linux, the operating system was ready to go in half an hour and the accounts were all set up in fifteen minutes total. Installing all of the software I needed took five minutes clicking through the Ubuntu App Center.
Ever have Linux do an update in the middle of your work and lock you out of your own machine for ten minutes, or twenty minutes, or two hours? I haven't.
Ever have Linux pop up a notification asking you to try Cortana, or set up a reminder? Ever get a notification on Steam asking you to update Firefox, or Java, or Steam? Me neither.
Ever have a Linux software update break your machine so that it won't boot, and need to reinstall the operating system? That's happened to me several times with Windows Update. It happened to me with Linux when we had a power failure during a software update, and that's it.
Apple products "just work", you have far fewer headaches than with Microsoft. But you pay for that privilege by literally paying for that privilege. That sleek machine with the genuinely gorgeous user interface is $999 while I'm working just as efficiently on $450 in new and used parts I bought off Ebay - and the user interface I'm staring at is quite pretty too. Yes, your Macbook or iMac looks better than my FrankenBox, but I can (and have) set up six computers in my house for my family. If you can afford to do the same with 6 Macbook Airs and iMacs, I want your job.
I mean no disrespect to you or to other people using non-FOSS operating systems. I understand your choices and the reason behind them. But it's nonsense to call FOSS a scam and a waste of time. The benefits in time savings and money savings, on top of FOSS freedom, are substantial.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 24 2018, @09:08PM (8 children)
It doesn't fulfill its main selling point (as far as I'm concerned): Customization and related collaboration.
Nothing in your post detracts from my appraisal: You end up having to work the way the Collective wants you to work, and it can be very VERY irritating to try to add your voice to that collective; the main selling point (as far as I'm concerned) is a scam. I use it because I can, and because I've learned how to use it, but it's been a dismal failure with regard to my original intentions for a customizable, collaborative computing environment.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 24 2018, @09:58PM (1 child)
Right, like Wikipedia was going to let the entire world collaborate according to their desire to thus advance human knowledge together. Anybody can edit Wikipedia!
There's always somebody claiming the [fishing ground, surf beach, park, codebase], isn't there?
Communism never delivers the promised utopia because people take ownership and MINES!! Get offa mah land!
(Score: 2) by Pino P on Wednesday July 25 2018, @05:44PM
Someone who takes "ownership" of a Wikipedia article's text is violating conduct policy [wikipedia.org]. But if an article's regular contributors are regularly reverting edits that show a genuine problem, it can be hard for a new editor to tell the difference between preserving article quality and gaming the system [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 24 2018, @11:44PM (2 children)
I suggest you switch away from using GNOME.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 25 2018, @12:58AM (1 child)
Install NetBSD. With the base install you get the Tab window manager. If you want to get fancy you can install fvwm2. But it's nice to just have .twmrc and .xinitrc in your home directory to easily modify your desktop.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 25 2018, @06:27PM
OpenBSD uses fvwm by default, but also comes with cwm, which is my favorite these days. It's very simple, and absolutely lovely to use (at least once you read the man page and learn the keybindings and how to change them).
(Score: 2) by bobthecimmerian on Wednesday July 25 2018, @01:42PM (2 children)
I'm not sure what you're asking for in terms of customization or collaboration. Windows, macOS, and iOS allow customization exactly as much as Microsoft or Apple permits. Linux gives you more choices. But no, you won't get every possible combination you want. You also can't make the community of contributors follow your own vision. And if you pick a more obscure combination of features, you are more likely to encounter bugs. My advice to Linux novices that are not tech tinkerers is to look for a Linux distribution that has a user experience close to what you want by default. If you like the way Elementary OS (a Linux distribution) works right at install, then it's a fine choice. If you like it somewhat but have ten substantial changes to the user interface in mind, it's best to skip it and look for something else that provides what you want right at install instead.
Customization and collaboration do not mean you can have any software feature you want. I wish it did. But you only have the freedom to use what already exists or work to build what you want. Unfortunately for all of us it's not a technology utopia.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 25 2018, @04:17PM (1 child)
That's what I mean by "customization".
I'm not the dummy you seem to have in mind; I know what I'm talking about down to the nuts and bolts of the OS.
(Score: 2) by bobthecimmerian on Wednesday July 25 2018, @08:50PM
So what kind of customization do you want but are not allowed to get? Some kind of coding conventions in the kernel? The use of a different programming language?
(Score: 3, Informative) by Freeman on Tuesday July 24 2018, @11:29PM (2 children)
Your pain and suffering and waiting could have been alleviated, if you had ponyed up for a SSD on her computer. You want to impress someone, switch out their HDD for a SSD. A 500mhz upgrade or an extra two cores generally won't be noticed, even 1333mhz vs 2400mhz RAM isn't as noticeable as switching from mechanical to solid state.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 25 2018, @03:23AM
Perhaps if you're using Windows. Swapping out a hard drive for a SSD on Linux is nice but not that impressive.
(Score: 2) by bobthecimmerian on Wednesday July 25 2018, @11:06AM
I switched all of our computers except one to SSDs for the primary operating system drive years ago, for the exact reason you stated. The Windows installation and update process is just painfully slow.
(Score: 2) by Pino P on Wednesday July 25 2018, @03:57AM (1 child)
No, because I've read that barebone laptop kits aren't worth it [tomsguide.com], and switching from a laptop to a desktop would mean inability to get work done while riding transit or while waiting for my roommate to finish her grocery shopping.
Yes. The release upgrade from Xubuntu 14.04 "Trusty" to 16.04 "Xenial" on a Dell Inspiron mini 1012 caused Linux to hang on second boot when it couldn't find the backlight control port of a keyboard that isn't backlit. See bug 107651 [kernel.org]. But I was able to work around it by pasting someone's solution into a terminal.
(Score: 2) by bobthecimmerian on Wednesday July 25 2018, @01:27PM
I grant that in the world of laptops, Linux is a less compelling choice. I still consider it the best option, but the advantages outside of freedom, privacy, and security are weaker than they are on the desktop.
I'm sorry you had an update fail, and glad you were able to fix it. I realize it's an enormous headache - but two things to consider are that I have had Windows Update wreck Windows installations more than once, and the process of backing up your existing data and reinstallingis less painful with Linux.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 25 2018, @01:14PM (1 child)
It doesn't fulfill its main selling point (as far as I'm concerned): Customization and related collaboration.
Nothing in your post detracts from my appraisal: You end up having to work the way the Collective wants you to work, and it can be very VERY irritating to try to add your voice to that collective; the main selling point (as far as I'm concerned) is a scam. I use it because I can, and because I've learned how to use it, but it's been a dismal failure with regard to my original intentions for a customizable, collaborative computing environment.
(Score: 2) by bobthecimmerian on Wednesday July 25 2018, @03:11PM
You re-posted https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=26768&page=1&cid=711921#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] -- see my answer to that post.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 24 2018, @07:51PM (11 children)
0: it's unfamiliar
For a huge segment of the Windows-using population, that's it.
Fire up a contemporary Linux distro running something like MATE or Cinnamon or even xfce and it'll be more similar to what they're accustomed to with Win7 and XP than Metro and the god-awful mess that was Windows 8 and carried over into Win10.
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Tuesday July 24 2018, @08:11PM
This is the exact reason I'm on Mint XFCE: it's easy to configure a panel or two, and then the DE just stays the hell out of your face. Having to apply theming in two separate places is a bit annoying, but after the first time just write down how you did it.
Which reminds me, a new Mint release just dropped a few weeks ago and I should reinstall one of these weekends. It's been awhile.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 4, Insightful) by urza9814 on Tuesday July 24 2018, @08:27PM (7 children)
I'd say for the vast majority of Windows users, even that isn't the true reason. Ultimately what it comes down to is:
-1: It's not automatic.
They buy a computer, someone shows them what button to click to open this application or that application, and that's all they do. Switch to Linux? First you've gotta install it...and the vast majority of Windows users wouldn't be capable of installing Windows, let alone Linux. Hell, I've had Windows *software developers* ask me for help reinstalling Windows. The computer is an appliance, the OS is part of that appliance, and it works the way it works. If you're trying to convince them to switch to Linux you might as well be telling them about re-flashing the software on their microwave oven. They don't care, they don't care enough to figure out why they should care, and I would be very, very thankful if anyone has a good method to overcome that...
So you're relying on a Linux evangelist with a bunch of free time on their hands getting together with someone who is willing to let that person do things that they don't know or care about to their PC while losing access to their previous tech support options in the process (because the manufacturer, the ISP, Geek Squad, whoever is pretty much going to give up as soon as they figure out it's not Windows). That's a very tough sell...
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 24 2018, @09:26PM (1 child)
I think with Windows 10 it's fine now, even 7 was ok-ish, but installing Windows used to be hell, all from the install media not including the right drivers, not having the right partitioning options, not way to do a last-chance backup etc.
So I'm not surprised a developer would not want or even manage to do it.
Linux was really hard back in the slackware days (I mean, back when you bought slackware on CDs because nobody had internet). Ever since Ubuntu it has been at least equal to Windows though.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Wednesday July 25 2018, @08:36PM
I've always found Windows systems really easy to install and maintain. Mind you, I stopped even trying Windows after XP disappeared.
I just made sure of having a bit of disk storage free to install Linux in a dual boot, and used Linux to make regular backups of the entire Windows system to restore from.
This was especially useful during installation. I would switch in and out of Linux during every forced reboot to make another backup. And no, I didn't overwrite the old backup. As a result I had an easy fallback every time the Windows installer crashed. which was often.
-- hendrik
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Nuke on Tuesday July 24 2018, @09:52PM
Well put by urza9814, but I was thinking of a car analogy. Suggesting to the average Windows user that they change to Linux is like suggesting to a Volvo owner that they swap out the engine for a Mercedes engine. Of course swapping software is much easier than swapping an engine, but that is how the average Windows user would see it.
(Score: 1) by DECbot on Tuesday July 24 2018, @10:10PM (2 children)
I find your ideas intriguing. While I'm not sure why I would want to reprogram my microwave other than pranking people (make the count down timer count up) an causing magnetrons to fail, it is an interesting concept. Now, reprogramming a toaster oven [instructables.com] as a poor man's solder reflow oven is known good fun. But that's usually a hardware hack as there's not much electronics in a toaster oven.
cats~$ sudo chown -R us /home/base
(Score: 2) by urza9814 on Wednesday July 25 2018, @02:52PM (1 child)
Eh, I can think of a few small things I wouldn't mind doing to mine. Generally I never use double-digits of minutes, and I never use smaller increments than 30 seconds. So if each number button instantly started for that many minutes (some microwaves do this; mine doesn't) and if some other button added 30 seconds, I could cook anything I need with at most two buttons, usually just one. Right now I always have to press four.
Which is a stupid thing to complain about, sure, but if I could reprogram it to work exactly how I want then that's what I would do. I'd probably also set it up so that it allows me to choose a power level BEFORE entering the time, instead of after. Doesn't make much sense to me that I have to wait until it starts cooking at full power before I can reduce the power level.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 25 2018, @06:35PM
It sounds like your microwave sucks, or is really really old. Any made in the last decade should have all those features.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 24 2018, @11:35PM
You obviously don't know what you are talking about. Linux is much easier to install than Windows.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 24 2018, @10:11PM (1 child)
1. It does not run THEIR software (QB, MS Office, Adobe, engineering CADs, internal stuff)
That is more important than 0, we know that by the wringing MS did to their customers with Win8 (they rumbled but stayed with the ship.) Customers can learn a few things in the OS, not that they spend much time moving files and mounting fileshares. However customers are not willing to give up their beloved tools - primarily MS Office. I used LibreOffice quite a lot, and while it is functional, it is not as polished as the Office. And, of course, Outlook + Exchange, they are not giving that up. Often there is a good reason for that.
Overall, office crowds are very conservative. It can be understood - a failure of a tool will threaten the workflow. Cost of Windows for them is zero, but they can't care less even if it is a thousand - it's not their money. Linux will win the desktop only when it does important things far better than Windows, otherwise resistance to change will keep Windows in place. But Windows had twenty year head start. Likely, the desktop - which is slowly dying on its own - will stay with Windows for a while. Linux on smartphone, however, had conquered the world, while Windows in the same market pitifully died. Linux and other F/OSS will be prime tools for new hardware, while Windows will remain a legacy tool on desktop hardware.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 25 2018, @02:52AM
Proprietary thugs try to undermine Free Software at every step of the way, so that's unlikely. But even if it did, what would that accomplish? Nothing. People would still be focused on usability over freedom, so the next time an attractive non-free proprietary user-subjugating program came along, most people would still use it. We need to educate people about the importance of software freedom and preventing computers and software from becoming black boxes, or nothing of substance will change. It's a battle of values, ethics, and principles, not technical usability. This is what "open source" advocates do not understand.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday July 24 2018, @07:52PM (14 children)
Seriously? You haven't run a Linux in recent years. Maybe you've never run Linux. Have you even browsed the applications available on Linux? http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/50-essential-linux-applications [linuxandubuntu.com]
Maybe you're looking for something specific. https://alternativeto.net/ [alternativeto.net]
You're just spreading FUD here. You know it, I know it, but not all of the spectators know it. The fact is, you can do damned near ANYTHING on Linux that you can do on Windows. And, if you need something that you just cannot find - you can put up a bounty for someone to make it. Small tasks here, https://bountify.co/ [bountify.co] Larger tasks may take a greater investment, up to and including a Red Hat support contract. It's all up to you.
But, when you're finished, the end product won't be reporting back to Microsoft corporate headquarters. Nor will Microsoft be targeting you for advertising, or much of anything else.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 24 2018, @08:22PM (5 children)
Runaway, I've been using Linux since it came on an armful of floppies (professionally, even!), so your marketing snowjob is aimed at the wrong person.
Sure, you can set up a desktop that looks superficially like Windows: icons, a trash can, a printer. That's not either of the sticking points I mentioned. Where is the Microsoft Word icon? Photoshop icon? Professional accounting software icon? Nowhere to be found. With Linux, you are OK if there is a webapp for it because that is the lowest common denominator of software. THE-LOWEST.
For Linux desktop apps, the best you can hope for is some clunky and idiosyncratic software that does a fraction of what the Windows alternative does (GIMP vs. Photoshop as an example). For hobbyist, tinkerer types, that can be enough. Tinkerers can chain programs together or write their own scripts to fill the missing pieces. On the other hand, if you want the kitchen sink all wrapped neatly in a package, good luck unless it's a software development package.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 24 2018, @08:35PM (1 child)
Oh good grief, let's just cut to the quick.
Only incels who hate women because they can't get laid use Linux.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 24 2018, @09:44PM
No, the main users of Linux are *programmers*... uh, I see your point.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by bobthecimmerian on Tuesday July 24 2018, @08:58PM
Using a webapp to accomplish something isn't a bad thing. It's not the "lowest common denominator". I put my shared family documents in Etherpad - Word for Windows and LibreOffice Writer for Windows and Linux work better, but with Etherpad I can edit the same document from five different computers. Likewise for the Ethercalc spreadsheet.
And using webapps also offers a migration path. That's how Google made ChromeOS propular, they invested billions in the Chrome browser and web standards and open source web software so that people could switch from any operating system with a decent browser to Chrome OS. But it's also the only thing that could possibly save the world from being owned by Windows, macOS, iOS, Android, and ChromeOS - as Progressive Web Apps improve and WebAssembly tools improve, the same thing that makes it convenient to jump to Chrome OS or Windows + Edge browser will make it convenient to jump to Ubuntu or FreeBSD or ReactOS or ReduxOS or Jolla or WebOS or whatever.
(Score: 2) by Nuke on Tuesday July 24 2018, @09:45PM (1 child)
I don't want Word, I don't want Photoshop, and I am not an accountant.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 24 2018, @10:17PM
(Score: 5, Insightful) by ilsa on Tuesday July 24 2018, @08:54PM (3 children)
Your argument is ridiculous and the GP is not spreading FUD.
You seriously expect the average user to go through the effort of a software bounty? If they are stuck, they are going to ask their local geek for assistance, and if that doesn't work, they're going to say "This is crap I want Windows back." If someone is knowledgeable enough to even know what bountify is, they are not an average user.
The value of a repo full of software drops precipitously when there are 5-10 different applications that purportedly do the same thing, but each one is finicky in it's own way and the user has no way of knowing ahead of time which one is most appropriate for them to use. One example: I want to open a PDF form that contains javascript calculated fields. Which application do I install? (Trick question... NONE of the PDF readers in the default ubuntu repo support such PDFs. I had to do a bunch of googling and experimenting to find that the commercial tools Master PDF and Qokka PDF Studio could. And no, installing a 9-year old, abandoned, security riddled, acroread is NOT an acceptable option)
I can give you an entire essay worth of examples where Linux falls catastrophically on it's face. I mean hell, I just tried Budgie Ubuntu 18.04 and apparently it can't even be bothered to bring up a progress window when copying a file. It just went along merrily in the background with zero notifications. When I googled about it, I found forum posts where people actually said to just use rsync "cause it's better anyway". Seriously?
Linux is absolutely unusable in a non-curated environment. Linux is so unpolished that the average user absolutely cannot use it without having a technically adept person to back them up. Heck, there are times where even a technically adept person might unexpectedly struggle with something. Linux (specifically Gnome) won't let you do something as simple as drag an application to the programs menu.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 24 2018, @11:34PM
That sounds like an entirely undesirable feature that exists only in proprietary garbage.
Ultimately, if users don't value freedom above all else, then they are going to be tricked into using proprietary software at some point, even if using such software is bad for society.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by el_oscuro on Wednesday July 25 2018, @12:30AM
I want to open a PDF form that contains javascript calculated fields. Which application do I install? (Trick question... NONE of the PDF readers in the default ubuntu repo support such PDFs.
That sounds like a feature, not a bug.
Given all of the exploits [nist.gov] that current versions of Acrobat have, why would you ever want to run scripts in a PDF? PDFs have exactly one purpose: printing. All of that extra crap is what makes Acrobat a steaming pile of shit.
I'm sure there are better tools for performing field calculations and they probably have print to PDF functionality too.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 25 2018, @06:40PM
Mupdf supports javascript. Maybe the Ubuntu package doesn't, but it is supported.
(Score: 2) by epitaxial on Wednesday July 25 2018, @01:34AM (3 children)
Find me some drop in replacements for SolidWorks and Altium and then I'll switch to Linux.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday July 25 2018, @01:54AM (2 children)
https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=18/07/24/1729244 [soylentnews.org]
Oh, wait - you said "drop in". Meaning, you want Solidworks and Altium to run on Linux. In that case, you want to talk to the developers over at Solidworks and Altium. They don't support Linux? Must be a reason for that.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Wednesday July 25 2018, @08:45PM (1 child)
What *are* Solidworks and Altium?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 26 2018, @01:07AM
Cad software. Of course, there are open source alternatives, but no one can promise that they are "drop in" replacements for proprietary software.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 24 2018, @09:11PM
Yikes, when did you last look at Linux? 1999? It works for me and I have installed it on dozens of different computers - from sub-notebooks to powerful hi-spec desktops. Not a problem, not once. Oh, you may be wanting to use Gentoo or Slackware on a modern high-end machine.. without the secret incantation manual of configuring those OS beasts. Just pick a decent modern distro - Debian, Ubuntu, SUSE, Manjaro, Mint.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 25 2018, @06:08AM
Peripherals work fine. My friends with Macs seem to have a lot more difficulty (and devices they simply have to give up on) than anybody who use Linux or Windows.