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posted by martyb on Friday July 27 2018, @08:18AM   Printer-friendly
from the Ian-Betteridge-says-"No" dept.

"White House economic advisers are spreading the word that second-quarter GDP, out Friday, may surpass 4% - the first time growth has hit or exceeded that number since the third quarter of 2014, FOX Business has learned.

Ahead of the data, Trump administration officials are preparing a major victory lap and plan to use the strong data points as proof that the president’s economic policies of lower taxes and deregulation have reversed years of economic malaise that followed the financial crisis and President Barack Obama’s fiscal agenda, according to people close to the White House."

[...] If GDP does surpass 4% on a quarterly basis it will be the first time it has done so since the third quarter of 2014, when it registered 5.2% during Obama’s second term in office. Even so, economic advisers in the Trump administration, such as Larry Kudlow, have blamed Obama’s policies of higher taxes and enhanced regulations for the relatively feeble economic growth during his eight years in office, where GDP never grew above 3% on a yearly basis.

[...] Still, as the White House prepares to tout GDP as evidence of the administration’s economic prowess and progress, some business leaders and economists have expressed doubts that certain fiscal policies, as they relate to trade, may be problematic and soon endanger growth.

Trump has engaged in a trade war with many trading partners, slapping tariffs on foreign goods and materials, and threatening to walk away from the North American Free Trade Agreement [NAFTA], a trade deal the country has with Mexico and Canada.

[...] Many countries have responded with tariffs of their own on U.S. products sold abroad, and there’s growing anecdotal evidence that American manufacturers are being hurt by the tariff war. It’s unclear if the retaliatory tariffs and their negative impact on the sale of U.S. goods abroad will show up in the second-quarter GDP numbers, but most economists believe such policies will ultimately hurt economic growth.

“Without question, tariffs will hit growth in the coming quarters as companies face higher prices and supply bottlenecks, and investment and consumption fall relative to where they would otherwise be,” Benn Steil, senior fellow and director of international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, tells FOX Business. “The only question is by how much, which depends on how far tariff madness spreads,” he warns.

“I would remind folks that the president's team has already said, ‘There will be no retaliation.’ They've already been wrong,” [CEO of JPMorgan Chase, Jamie] Dimon told CNNMoney. “If I was the president, I'd be a little ticked off at some of my advisers, to tell you the truth.”

foxbusiness.com/economy/us-economic-growth-nears-5-time-to-celebrate


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  • (Score: 2) by Arik on Friday July 27 2018, @05:43PM

    by Arik (4543) on Friday July 27 2018, @05:43PM (#713775) Journal
    "For every $billion in tariffs Trump has provisionally or actually put on the EU and China, the EU and China have responded in kind, so the net result at the GDP level is ultimately... zero."

    Yeah, no, that's not how it works at all.

    Tariffs result in overall lower efficiencies so they'll have a negative effect, but not necessarily a large one in comparison to the entire GDP. And they're negative for both parties btw, which is why responding to tariffs with tariffs makes no sense at all economically.

    It makes sense politically, however, and that's what all of this is about. Political maneuvering. If Trump's tariff's are as he seems to intend them a short-lived negotiating tactic that results fairly quickly in a fairer deal going forward, it will have been a success; but if the tariffs and counter-tariffs linger on for years with both parties dug in then it will have been a failure.
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