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posted by martyb on Sunday July 29 2018, @07:02AM   Printer-friendly
from the all-work-and-no-pay-makes-Jack-a-litigious-boy dept.

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following (paywalled) story:

July 26, 2018

Starbucks Corp. must pay employees for off-the-clock work such as closing and locking stores, the California Supreme Court ruled on Thursday in a decision that could have broad implications for companies that employ workers paid by the hour across the state.

The decision is a departure from a federal standard that gives employers greater leeway to deny workers’ compensation for short tasks, such as putting on a uniform, that are performed before they clock in or after they clock out.

More details are available from pbs.org:

The ruling came in a lawsuit by a Starbucks employee, Douglas Troester, who argued that he was entitled to be paid for the time he spent closing the store after he had clocked out.

Troester said he activated the store alarm, locked the front door and walked co-workers to their cars — tasks that required him to work for four to 10 additional minutes a day.

An attorney for Starbucks referred comment to the company. Starbucks did not immediately have comment.

A U.S. District Court rejected Troester’s lawsuit on the grounds that the time he spent on those tasks was minimal. But the California Supreme Court said a few extra minutes of work each day could “add up.”

Troester was seeking payment for 12 hours and 50 minutes of work over a 17-month period. At $8 an hour, that amounts to $102.67, the California Supreme Court said.

“That is enough to pay a utility bill, buy a week of groceries, or cover a month of bus fares,” Associate Justice Goodwin Liu wrote. “What Starbucks calls ‘de minimis’ is not de minimis at all to many ordinary people who work for hourly wages.”

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by VLM on Sunday July 29 2018, @03:25PM (6 children)

    by VLM (445) on Sunday July 29 2018, @03:25PM (#714370)

    Thank the Gods I'm here to fix this stuff.

    The appropriate automobile analogy is the UAW union exists to prevent factory workers from being paid to assemble a car and then being forced to paint the car off duty while unpaid if they want to keep that sweet factory job.

    Or maybe the factory workers are paid to assemble the engine; now if you want sand from casting removed, or oil put in before starting it for the first time, thats unpaid.

    Although honestly I don't understand what's happened in the last quarter century; as a retail supermarket night shift manager a long time ago (while going to school in the day) it was a firing offense FOR ME to have employees working off the clock due to insurance liability reasons and also, for the teens, youth labor regulations (Its illegal to have teens working more than three hours per school night... note the law is specifically written as "working" not "being paid for"). Somehow WRT labor regulations and insurance regulations, unpaid slavery is now both standard and immune to workmans comp or something. The idea that we had no slavery in the USA from 1865 to turn of the century-ish, but its back again, is really weird. I guess slavery is OK in 2018 as long as you're not telling black people to pick cotton, only empty trash cans, or something.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by mcgrew on Sunday July 29 2018, @04:58PM

    by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Sunday July 29 2018, @04:58PM (#714405) Homepage Journal

    Although honestly I don't understand what's happened in the last quarter century

    It's simple. The rich have convinced the less intelligent conservatives to elect people who will endeavor to ruin unions, and they've been wildly successful at it. Unions are now weaker than ever.

    Like weekends? Thank unions.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday July 29 2018, @07:35PM (4 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday July 29 2018, @07:35PM (#714432) Journal

    People who think like you caused this, VLM. Don't you fucking dare sit there with that injured "who me?" expression. You have a problem with this? Get out there and stump for labor rights.

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    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday July 30 2018, @03:48AM (2 children)

      They're not rights. You're not entitled to be treated well or even reasonably by your boss unless he's violating labor laws. If you were a slave you might be but you can down tools any time you like and go elsewhere. We're sitting on damned good unemployment numbers at the moment, so the jobs are there. Take a page from Johnny Paycheck [youtube.com], it feels fantastic.

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      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday July 30 2018, @07:20PM (1 child)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday July 30 2018, @07:20PM (#714890) Journal

        No one asked you, shitbird. I hate you Lawful Evil types more than anything else on the grid, precisely because you pervert the entire purpose of Law like this.

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        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday July 30 2018, @07:55PM

          Following = perversion, check. The purpose of law in this country is not to give you what you want. It is to prevent the government and your fellow citizens from infringing upon your actual rights. Not entitlements, not furthering the greater good, not anything else. Spend any amount of time studying our founding and this becomes abundantly obvious.

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          My rights don't end where your fear begins.
    • (Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday July 31 2018, @06:42PM

      by VLM (445) on Tuesday July 31 2018, @06:42PM (#715330)

      Technically its those nice people who passed the 1965 immigration reform laws that resulted in a flood of supply; its all supply and demand.

      You can stump till you're blue in the face; won't do nothing unless it aligns with supply and demand.

      You'd be surprised how many people want pre-65 immigration reform, plenty of stumping for it. That would help quite a bit.