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posted by chromas on Wednesday August 01 2018, @09:09AM   Printer-friendly
from the when-the-second-meets-the-first dept.

Trump says public availability of 3D-printed guns 'doesn't seem to make much sense'

President Donald Trump said Tuesday that he is "looking into" the availability of plans for the 3D printing of guns, writing on Twitter that he had already been in touch with the NRA on the issue.

"I am looking into 3-D Plastic Guns being sold to the public. Already spoke to NRA, doesn't seem to make much sense!" the president wrote on Twitter Tuesday morning.

After a years-long legal battle, Defense Distributed, a Texas-based group, has announced plans to release instructions on Wednesday for guns that can be created by a 3-D printer, including a handgun and parts for a semi-automatic assault rifle. Although plans were not supposed to be available until Wednesday, instructions have already begun to appear online for download, CNN reported Tuesday.

From Defense Distributed's still barebones website:

August 1, 2018

Defense Distributed relaunches DEFCAD after reaching a settlement agreement with the US Department of State, concluding a multi-year federal lawsuit. The age of the downloadable gun formally begins.

The DEFCAD website is now up (as of July 31) but files supposedly can't be downloaded until August 1.

Even our resident Trump supporters/enthusiasts can bash him for even thinking about encroaching on our digital gun liberties.

Also at The Hill.

"U.S. District Judge Robert Lasnik issued a temporary restraining order Tuesday afternoon that bars Cody Wilson from sharing 3-D gun print files online August 1.

The order provides time for Democrats to continue pressing President Trump to intervene and prohibit future publication of files all together."

Previously: Landmark Legal Shift for 3D-Printed Guns

Related: The $1,200 Machine That Lets Anyone Make a Metal Gun at Home
Japanese Gun Printer Goes to Jail
Suspected 3D-Printed Gun Parts and Plastic Knuckles Seized in Australia
FedEx Refuses to Ship Defense Distributed's Ghost Gunner CNC Mill
Man Who Used CNC Mill to Manufacture AR-15 "Lowers" Sentenced to 41 Months
Ghost Gunner Software Update Allows the Milling of an M1911 Handgun


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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday August 01 2018, @07:11PM (10 children)

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday August 01 2018, @07:11PM (#715858) Journal

    I already covered that in another comment. Obviously, not all people have the skills or tools needed to build a gun. Printing one could be easier. They can pool money together with others to buy a 3D printer, and print other stuff with their 3D printer.

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  • (Score: 2) by legont on Thursday August 02 2018, @01:41AM (3 children)

    by legont (4179) on Thursday August 02 2018, @01:41AM (#716017)

    It would be more convenient and practical to rent a maker facility and cnc mill the lower receiver. They could off course buy a mill. They are in 5-10 grand range new and can be found under 1000 on garage sales.

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    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday August 02 2018, @01:53AM (2 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday August 02 2018, @01:53AM (#716023) Journal

      You bring up an interesting point. I assume by "maker facility" you mean "hackerspace" or such? They might specifically forbid making weapons in the contract you sign with them, or go completely bonkers if you do make one. I expect someone will try to do just that and an incident will make the news.

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      • (Score: 2) by legont on Thursday August 02 2018, @03:03AM (1 child)

        by legont (4179) on Thursday August 02 2018, @03:03AM (#716051)

        Well, I imagine a conservative community just buying a maker bus to educate their children. A few AK47 per night can be made easily from kits available over the Internet. The kits are usually a fully capable rifles with lower receivers cut in half. While I never tried it myself, I am pretty sure i can do it (and I have friends with cnc mills). It appears to be legal as well or though I did not research it either.

        Regardless, I think it did not happen yet simply because it is currently easy to buy a gun. Once liberals achieve their goal of making it hard, the gun maker movement will explode and will never end after that because people will quickly discover the wonders of cheap custom designed instruments.

        This is the main reason I personally against stricter gun regulations. The technology is out there already and can't be stopped. Regulations will just force people to use it sooner.

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        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 02 2018, @07:54AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 02 2018, @07:54AM (#716109)

          Conservative communities don't need a bus. They have garages with tools and equipment. Their children already learn how to use those. Makerbuses are for city people who never learned to build a house, repair a vehicle, weld, or use power tools.

  • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Thursday August 02 2018, @02:56AM (5 children)

    by mhajicek (51) on Thursday August 02 2018, @02:56AM (#716047)

    If you have an iq over 80 and $10 you can build a gun from plumbing pipe.

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    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday August 02 2018, @04:24AM (4 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday August 02 2018, @04:24AM (#716068) Journal

      Do you have to have an IQ over 120 to make it safe and reliable?

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 02 2018, @08:02AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 02 2018, @08:02AM (#716110)

        There is no safe in guns. Period. Any gun can jam and blow up in your hand. Buy the best-rated steel tubing you can and you'll get /safer/, but it will never be /safe/. Zip guns are generally recomended as one-time use only, reliability isn't a concern. Hit the target, toss your pipe, burn your clothes, good to go.

        • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Thursday August 02 2018, @12:46PM (1 child)

          by mhajicek (51) on Thursday August 02 2018, @12:46PM (#716173)

          And any neural network can become Skynet and take over the world, right?

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          • (Score: 2) by Bot on Thursday August 02 2018, @06:34PM

            by Bot (3902) on Thursday August 02 2018, @06:34PM (#716379) Journal

            Not if it is bootstrapped by systemd.

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      • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Thursday August 02 2018, @12:45PM

        by mhajicek (51) on Thursday August 02 2018, @12:45PM (#716172)

        No, just proof test it with a hot load, and anything less powerful will be safe. And a slam fire pipe gun is likely to be more reliable than a modern semi due to its dead simple design.

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