Mozilla is rebranding Firefox. The company is asking for feedback on the new look, which will try to cover the various Firefox offerings. For most people, Firefox refers to a browser, but the company wants the brand to encompass all the various apps and services that the Firefox family of internet products cover, “from easy screenshotting and file sharing to innovative ways to access the internet using voice and virtual reality.” The fox with a flaming tail “doesn’t offer enough design tools to represent this entire product family,” Mozilla believes. Instead of recoloring the logo and dissecting the fox, the company wants to start from scratch. That said, the name “Firefox” is staying, so Mozilla doesn’t have that much wiggle room.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 01 2018, @03:03PM (10 children)
I use pale moon too, but am reconsidering it since they are no longer intending to continue the fork, but have jumped to a newer version of ff to track. Hell, even Australis is included now. Looking for a new fork to migrate to.
(Score: 2) by b0ru on Wednesday August 01 2018, @03:14PM (1 child)
I used to use netscape/MIS, but the continuation, Seamonkey, seems to still be going. I have no idea of its current state of development, or extension compatibility, but it might be worth a look.
(Score: 1) by anubi on Thursday August 02 2018, @02:16AM
I also went to SeaMonkey when my Firefox got infected with some malware from a radio/MP3 recorder soundcard driver, which transferred when I plugged a USB cable from my computer to the radio as per instructions. I thought the connection was for the purpose of accessing the radio's SD card for .MP3 like a camera does for images. But that's not what happened. It was an opportunity for the radio manufacturer to shove DRM enforcement software to me labeled as a "driver". The whole purpose of which seemed to make it very difficult to re-encode .MP3 audio of youtube videos. Should have never done that. 3.5mm audio cable only from now on.
( this particular one made YouTube audio play at a really low volume...even after I had removed the connection. I am sure it was some sort of behind the scenes DRM handshaking going on.)
I had been running an older copy of Firefox. When I reinstalled the latest Firefox, I simply no longer had enough CPU or memory to run it. At this point, something was now amiss where I could not go back to the earlier version.
It would appear to work then hang up all the time.
I ended up going to SeaMonkey and its been working fine ever since. And, no, I am not about to plug the radio back into the USB port. I guess I needed another lesson taught about the risks of plugging anything into the USB port, even if it was something bought retail. If it needs USB, think twice before tendering money, that's fer sure!
No matter what they *say*, they always have "hold harmless" on their side. Doing anything a business tells you do do.... its you that's placing your ass on the line should you comply.
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
(Score: 3, Interesting) by acid andy on Wednesday August 01 2018, @06:00PM (7 children)
Eh? Got a link about this change? I did a quick search and all I could find is the assurances that they won't use Australis. https://www.palemoon.org/roadmap.shtml [palemoon.org]
If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by b0ru on Wednesday August 01 2018, @07:52PM (6 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 01 2018, @08:14PM
I'm hoping otter-browser releases 1.0 soon...
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 01 2018, @08:42PM
Seems like real nice people! :)
I've been reading their boards and think the following themes I have seen there are harmful to the Free Software world in general, not just browsers:
1) Our free software must work out of the box for any user for any situation.
2) People do banking with our software, we can't put the manpower in for security like the big boys, so we should just give up and do minimal forks of the oligarchs. Continuing our fork would be a disservice to the users.
3) We will hassle anybody who independently builds our code and tries to share our work, by beating them with a trademark mallet.
It's like the Bazaar has shifted their stands around and on top of each other to become the new Cathedral. In classical times, we hacked on Linux to get it to run on a new platform, and shared it on our web pages. If Linux were a modern project, we'd be getting a C&D for not calling it Foolix.
We professionals need to return to being able to build and understand our complex software, even if we don't become rockstar experts. If grandma can't install the geeks' web browser, that's fine. If a website blocks the geeks' web browser because it isn't on a whitelist, no reason for the devs to become active, give the user the ability to control the user agent.
(Score: 2) by acid andy on Wednesday August 01 2018, @09:01PM
I read that. What a curious way of attempting to communicate with someone.
Ugh, I hope not. Why can't people pick a good project and stick with it? They obviously knew people hate Australis. Maybe it's a path of least resistance thing, code wise.
I'll keep using Pale Moon for as long as I can because I'm yet to find anything else that fits what I want and need.
If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
(Score: 2) by digitalaudiorock on Wednesday August 01 2018, @10:30PM (1 child)
Holy crap. How the hell do I know nothing about this? I've been using palemoon under Gentoo for quite some time now. I don't even see anything implying this on the palemoon forum. Total news to me.
(Score: 2) by Kell on Wednesday August 01 2018, @11:30PM
Likewise - this is news to me. And concerning.
Scientists ask questions. Engineers solve problems.
(Score: 2) by Arik on Friday August 03 2018, @02:34PM
The world needs Firefox. The old Firefox, not this fat, bloated, smelly old trainwreck that's wearing the costume today.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?