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President Donald Trump appears to have changed his story about a 2016 meeting at Trump Tower that is pivotal to the special counsel's investigation, tweeting that his son met with a Kremlin-connected lawyer to collect information about his political opponent.
[...] That is a far different explanation than Trump gave 13 months ago, when a statement dictated by the president but released under the name of Donald Trump Jr., read: "We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago."
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President Trump Changed His Story on Son's Meeting with Russian Lawyer
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(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @05:20PM (21 children)
Maybe he should give Russia another 20% of our uranium. They seem to leave those types of stories alone.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @05:26PM (4 children)
* [citation required]
(Score: 5, Insightful) by bob_super on Tuesday August 07 2018, @06:57PM
We don't need no citations. We have alternative facts, rumors, and the most popular dedicated propaganda cable channel.
We can keep people focused on someone who lost an election almost two years ago, as a cover-up for everything we currently do.
Yes, somehow, it works. Glad we slashed education funding a while back, it's clearly paying off. How about them Bears ?
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @07:04PM (1 child)
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html [nytimes.com]
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-clintons-putin-and-uranium-2015-4 [businessinsider.com]
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-23/how-putin-s-russia-gained-control-of-a-u-s-uranium-mine [bloomberg.com]
Go ahead and dispute it with a Snopes "false" rating, you know you want to.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @07:21PM
A Canadian company's uranium? I thought you meant American uranium when you said "our uranium".
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday August 08 2018, @02:10AM
If you live under a rock in Antarctica, then I might believe you've never heard of Uranium One. And, that all happened under the responsibility of Hillary Clinton, while she held one of the highest offices in this country.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @05:27PM (2 children)
So dealings with Russia are 100% OK except if Hillary was involved? Has the concept of legal/illegal just fled your brain out of frustration? Perhaps your brain is simply trying to cope with the task of defending Trump while he makes it harder and harder to do so?
It is amazing how low the bar has gotten for the office of the President. Straight up lies don't matter, morality doesn't matter, calling the press the enemy of the people doesn't matter. Anyone defending Trump at this point is a total loon. Defend some of his policies if you really do like them, but the man himself is a walking dumpster fire.
(Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @05:37PM (1 child)
the degenerate scum planted in every tv news station around the country is the enemy of the people. they're nothing but anti-american propaganda agents (no matter which group of whores is in office). the fact that you act like they are the press just shows you're either really dumb or really full of shit.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @05:49PM
So finally we see you types regretting corporate control and monopolization?
I dislike the major media outlets and choose to ignore them, but trying to paint them as traitorous bastards that need to be killed off is PSYCHO TALK!
Freedom of speech which is so treasured by most of this site is out the window? You are insane, really dumb, or really full of shit. Better yet, you probably made the Hat Trick!
(Score: 2, Troll) by realDonaldTrump on Tuesday August 07 2018, @05:44PM (3 children)
Why isn’t the A.G. or Special Council looking at the many Hillary Clinton or Comey crimes. 33,000 e-mails deleted? What about all of the Clinton ties to Russia, including Podesta Company, Uranium deal, Russian Reset, big dollar speeches etc.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @06:03PM (1 child)
Jesus, this shit again? Why do you keep posting/tweeting/whatever your masturbation mantra? Can't you keep anything to yourself?
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @06:09PM
Is troll account, pay no mind. Cheapest troll in history, one peepee tape and he works for us. We pay more to Ivan down in Brusclieska, ah ah ah!
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @06:44PM
You do know that the entire DoJ works for Trump now, right? He's constantly bitching about the exact same thing.
Its no derp state conspiracy, its because they already looked into all that shit and they found nothing.
Your guy won, get over it.
(Score: 5, Informative) by julian on Tuesday August 07 2018, @05:45PM (4 children)
This story is still, years later, complete horseshit, [snopes.com]
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @06:12PM
But whatabout my whataboutism???
Lock her up! Locker her up!
(Score: 1, Troll) by Pav on Tuesday August 07 2018, @11:52PM
Complete horseshit?! Are you serious? Did you read through that article, especially to the "update" portion on Vadim Mikerin being investigated for both corruption and connection to the Clinton foundation?
This is the same Clinton foundation which (despite billions in donations) channelled the vast majority of Haiti relief to... elsewhere. Bill and Hillary gained a quarter billion in the last 15 years alone. What's the old saw about those who gain wealth in public office? We even SAW IN THEIR OWN WORDS how Hillary and her campaign subverted US democracy by cheating Bernie in the primaries, and colluded with the media to "elevate" Trump. Oh, but ignore that... because the DNC is a corporation and are allowed to do that (BTW, a judge specifically threw this argument out in court during the DNC fraud lawsuit). Oh, and ignore cheating Bernie because the emails proving this weren't leaked... it was a RUSSIAN HACK, Russia, Russia, Russia, and we're at war (or something). Machiavelli would be pround - blame your opponent for your own weaknesses. Brilliant!
I'm sure if I had that much money I could arrange to get a big fat FALSE instead of an UNPROVEN on Snopes. I mean... Clinton wasn't SOLELY responsible for making the Uranium One decision... oh, and the guy who owned the company before payed EVEN MORE in s/bribes/donations to the Clinton Foundation anyway. And some time had passed between the payment and the decision. And the Vadim Mikerin corruption investigations links to the Clinton foundation are still being investigated... I'm sure there's nothing to that at all, so of course the whole Uranium One scandal deserves a nice red FALSE at Snopes!
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday August 08 2018, @02:14AM
So - uhhhh - you're moving responsibility for that uranium sale off of Hillary's shoulders, directly onto Obama's shoulders? Good enough, I guess. It only helps to prove that the Dems hop into bed with Russians when it is convenient, while screaming and shouting if they think the Repubs might be doing the same thing.
(Score: 2) by arulatas on Wednesday August 08 2018, @06:30PM
Facts are the enemy to conspiracy theorists.
----- 10 turns around
(Score: 5, Insightful) by ikanreed on Tuesday August 07 2018, @05:59PM (3 children)
The others have cited that there's a paper trail at least trying to establish the pretense of removing conflicts of interest, and a disconnect between who was responsible for that decision and Clinton.
Let's say that's a crock of shit and Clinton still actually betrayed the country. Why would you overlook the people in power now being corrupt and complicit to focus on someone who's out of office? Is that really who you want to be?
(Score: 3, Informative) by Pav on Wednesday August 08 2018, @01:31AM (2 children)
When the Democrats have attacked Trump on policy it has often been from the right eg. on war, trade etc... and they silently agreed with Trump on both his vast increase of the military budget and the tax cuts. Even on immigration Hillary spoke about a fence instead of a wall during the campaign. Personally I'd rather an incompetent corrupt plutocrat (Trump) than a competent servant of corrupt plutocrats. Lets say Trump messed up by not paying his Russian informants like Clinton paid hers, and this amounts to a crime worthy of impeachment - be careful what you wish for. Already many progressive leftists, black lives matter etc... have been painted in the media as Russian puppets and even traitors. This is shaping up to be a new McCarthyism, and that's not a good thing. Don't align yourself with Robert "weapons of mass destruction" Mueller... a proven liar on Iraq. The security agencies can hardly be called Unbiased Purveyors of Truth, not to mention they are traditional enemies of the progressive left, and these days seemingly the anti-intervention right. They've even legalised propagandising the American people, which (if one didn't know any better :) ) might suggest they were planning on misinforming the public quite a bit.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @06:34PM (1 child)
I was not surprised when I googled your claim and the first five hits were russian propaganda sites.
If that's not proof that Mueller's investigation has got the russians quaking I don't know what is.
BTW, Mueller has made no substantive public or off-the-record statements about the investigation for anyone to "align" with. That ship is so tight that it hasn't leaked a single drop.
But he has collected six guilty pleas from five criminals:
o Michael Flynn - Whitehouse National Security Advisor
o George Papadapolous - Campaign National Security Advisor
o Richard Gates - Lieutenant to Campaign Chair
o Richard Penedo - Broker of stolen identities to Russians
o Alex van der Zwaan - Son-in-law of Russian oligarch German Khan (owner of Alfa Group)
(Score: 2) by Pav on Thursday August 09 2018, @01:45AM
Googled myself, and I did get RT... but those other "Russian propaganda sites" were Washington Post, CNN and Wikipedia... even Mother Jones - "Lie by lie - how we got into Iraq". I suppose they've all become Putin puppets, right? McCarthyism = not engaging with an argument, and smearing ideological enemies as traitors... way to prove my point!
BTW, have you seen the bullshit charges those "Trump scalps" have been pulled up on? eg. lying to the FBI, "ordinary" corrupt Washington practices, wire fraud etc... I have no doubt Trump is neck-deep in garden variety corruption, as are most of these oligarchs and their political servants. Makes a good headline though (provided noone reads into it too deeply).