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President Donald Trump appears to have changed his story about a 2016 meeting at Trump Tower that is pivotal to the special counsel's investigation, tweeting that his son met with a Kremlin-connected lawyer to collect information about his political opponent.
[...] That is a far different explanation than Trump gave 13 months ago, when a statement dictated by the president but released under the name of Donald Trump Jr., read: "We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago."
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(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @06:23PM (8 children)
It came out at the Comey hearing that the fbi initiated an investigation of the Trump due to information paid for by the clinton campaign from russian spys (via fusion gps). So there is known public evidence of collusion between the clinton campaign and russian spys, no public evidence currently for the trump campaign. And to make it worse it looks like the clinton campaign got trolled by the russians as part of it. Along with clicking random links in emails, worthless passwords, etc they are really looking like highly corrupt bumbling fools.
Are you aware of all this? Because its likely these talking points youre getting from somewhere are going to be what gets members of the clinton campaign arrested, if anything. It really is crazy that it seems like this simple trick could actually be real. Just read the actual reports rather than the summaries, I think youre being played.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @06:37PM
Sorry, Strzok hearing not Comey. It was in like the last 5 minutes, when the FBI suddenly said he could answer questions.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @06:38PM (4 children)
Played by shills who try and scream the sky is green is more like it.
Once again, whataboutism is a terrible method of arguing. Is that all the weak sauce you've got to defend your traitor in chief?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @06:58PM (3 children)
Yea sure, its whataboutism. Good luck with that line on normal people. If the anti-trump stuff like that i keep seeing everywhere since 2016 isnt some false flag to associate that position with toxic idiocy Ill be really surprised.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @07:46PM (2 children)
Good. I look forward to your discovering the anti-trump stuff that you've been seeing everywhere is in fact toxic idiocy and that no false flags are necessary to reveal that we actually managed to elect the most incompetent President in history.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @10:59PM (1 child)
Heres what I see happening, the dnc has been tricked into supporting a "getting dirt on political opponents from russians is treason" narrative, so that the legal reasoning can be used to go after the clinton campaign whom has already been publically identified as doing that in a whole slew of documents and interviews. Meanwhile the evidence of the same from the trump campaign seems to still be lacking.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @12:39AM
You realize Mueller doesn't read this stuff right?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @03:59AM (1 child)
No, it didn't. What came out is that the investigation started when Papadapolous wagged his drunk tongue to an Australian diplomat [nytimes.com] about the russians helping the campaign and that diplomat reported it to the FBI.
The steele dossier had nothing to do with the opening of the investigation - it didn't even exist yet. It was only used as adjunct material for a fisa warrant on carter page, a person that they previously got a warrant on in 2013. [justsecurity.org] And when they did get the dossier-assisted warrant in October 2016, Page was officially off the campaign since at least the previous month. [politico.com]
As for the general question of oppo research being used to justify opening an FBI investigation on a presidential candidate? Tell that HIllary Clinton who was investigated by the FBI largely on the basis of the Bannon/Mercer funded Clinton Cash oppo-research "book." [washingtonpost.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @11:50AM
This is just flat out wrong, according to Strzok's testimony. Watch it, look at the actual evidence.