President Donald Trump appears to have changed his story about a 2016 meeting at Trump Tower that is pivotal to the special counsel's investigation, tweeting that his son met with a Kremlin-connected lawyer to collect information about his political opponent.
[...] That is a far different explanation than Trump gave 13 months ago, when a statement dictated by the president but released under the name of Donald Trump Jr., read: "We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago."
(Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @07:28PM (7 children)
> What changing stories? The only changing stories Ive seen are in headlines
WHICH IS WHY YOU SHOULD READ PAST THE HEADLINES DUMBASS
November 11, 2016
Hope Hicks, then-spokesperson for Trump's campaign, told The Associated Press [apnews.com] there was no contact between the Trump campaign and Russian representatives.
"It never happened," Hicks told The AP. "There was no communication between the campaign and any foreign entity during the campaign."
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January 15, 2017
Mike Pence issued a blanket denial to Chris Wallace on Fox News.
Wallace: "I'm asking a direct question: Was there any contact in any way between Trump or his associates and the Kremlin or contacts they had?"
Pence: "I joined this campaign in the summer, and I can tell you that all the contact by the Trump campaign and associates was with the American people. We were fully engaged with taking his message to make America great again all across this country. That's why he won in a landslide election."
Wallace: "... if there were any contacts, sir, I'm just trying to get an answer."
Pence: "Yes. I -- of course not. Why would there be any contacts between the campaign? Chris, the -- this is all a distraction, and it's all part of a narrative to delegitimize the election and to question the legitimacy of this presidency. The American people see right through it."
Pence later repeated that "of course" there had not been contact between the Trump campaign and Russia in an interview with CBS' Dickerson.
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March 2017
Trump Jr. denies setting up any meetings with Russian nationals for campaign purposes
In an interview with the New York Times, [nytimes.com] Trump Jr. denied that he had participated in any meetings with Russians relating to the presidential campaign.
“Did I meet with people that were Russian? I’m sure, I’m sure I did,” he told the Times. “But none that were set up. None that I can think of at the moment. And certainly none that I was representing the campaign in any way, shape or form.”
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The fact that they lied about the meeting is strong evidence that the meeting was actually productive. They are WAY past the point of getting the benefit of the doubt now.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @10:29PM (6 children)
So it says they didnt meet with any "foreign entitities" and "the kremlin or contacts" but they did meet with russian people. How is this inconsistent? Is there any reason they thought the russians they were talking to were one of the excluded groups?
I mean your story has an obvious hole in it.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Tuesday August 07 2018, @11:48PM (3 children)
Let me lay that out for you. They met with entities (people are entities) and those entities were Russian. So he met with Russian Entities. Russians are NOT Americans.
It's sad when Captain Obvious is actually called for.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @12:12AM (2 children)
He clearly says he met with russian people in the one quote. So whatever, continue reading incorrectly into these tactically chosen phrases all you want, there was no changing of the story presented here. If you want to say "entities are people, gotcha!", that will be your own personal problem.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Wednesday August 08 2018, @12:30AM (1 child)
So your argument is that I have a problem because you agree with me?!?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @12:37AM
Well troll certainly don't get into arguments to broaden their own perspective.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @01:24AM (1 child)
When DJTjr went full Fredo and just tweeted out the emails about setting up the meeting, [theguardian.com] he proved that he was literally told that he was meeting with "the crown prosecutor of Russia” who was there to provide the trump campaign with "very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr Trump."
You are an obvious hole
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @02:21AM
So you are saying they met with the crown prosecutor of russia? Or now that meeting with someone who was told something by another person is the same as meeting with the "other person"?
Its still a consistent story with precise and weasely wording by the trump campaign.