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President Donald Trump appears to have changed his story about a 2016 meeting at Trump Tower that is pivotal to the special counsel's investigation, tweeting that his son met with a Kremlin-connected lawyer to collect information about his political opponent.
[...] That is a far different explanation than Trump gave 13 months ago, when a statement dictated by the president but released under the name of Donald Trump Jr., read: "We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago."
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President Trump Changed His Story on Son's Meeting with Russian Lawyer
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Anyone can make an omelet with eggs. The trick is to make one with none.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @08:35PM (25 children)
The fact that, as soon as trump was in office, the very first thing he did was try really hard to give Putin what he asked for at the meeting.
DJTjr's first official statement specifically about the meeting [weeklystandard.com] was:
"Adoptions" is russia-speak for "sanctions relief" because the adoption program was cancelled by Putin as a foot-stamping response to the Magnitsky act sanctions against russian oligarchs. [businessinsider.com]
Trump's first move after the inauguration was to secretly start trying to lift that Magnitsky sanctions without getting any concession from Russia in return. [thehill.com]
Furthermore, the trump administration has done everything it possibly can to neuter [reuters.com] the new sanctions [nytimes.com] that congress passed on a nearly unanimous vote. [cnn.com]
So, we have clear and obvious evidence of the Quo that Putin was asking for at that meeting.
Do you think Mr "Art of the Deal" is just going to give away the Quo without getting the Quid he was offered first?
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @10:38PM (1 child)
Trump said he wanted to improve relations with russia publically during the campaign. Looks like he tried to do that because he wasnt part of whatever secret backroom deal gone wrong between Russia and the Obama administration. There is no need to think that has anything to do with the meeting in question.
This whole thing has to be fake. All I see is some zero evidence wild speculations most useful to drown out any real criticism of trump. This is so crazy, I warned everyone on here that Trump was going to win because of this behaviour well before the election, but the same people seem to be doubling down!!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @01:29AM
Giving up your strongest cards without even getting a promise of anything in return is not "improving relations" its surrendering.
That pathetic, whiny little loser sold out america and he did it right god damn in front us.
You have to be fake.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday August 08 2018, @02:07AM (22 children)
So, those high profile stories of deaths of adopted Russian children had absolutely NOTHING to do with the cancelation of foreign adoptions of Russian children. Got it.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @02:10AM (21 children)
Despite your snark, you are correct. Its called a pretext.
But you are one of those antipatriots who thinks its better to be a russian than it is to be a democrat. So enjoy the comforting salve of that pretext.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday August 08 2018, @02:20AM (20 children)
More accurately, it's better to be Russian or Chinese than to be a progressive. There are still some good Democrats left. If I were to estimate how many, I'd give some number slightly over 50% of all registered Dems. It's the LEADERSHIP that truly sucks ass, not so much the rank and file.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday August 08 2018, @02:31AM (16 children)
So you wanted Bernie instead of Hillary but being a progressive is worse than being a damn commie...what the fuck. Go to bed, old man, you're Alzheimering all over the thread again.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday August 08 2018, @02:42AM (13 children)
You're getting senile. No, I didn't want Bernie. Bernie was by far the lesser of two evils competing for the Democratic nomination. And, apparently, Democrats saw the same thing. But, Hillary and her corrupt supporters stabbed Bernie in the back.
In your mind, is it necessary that I like a person to recognize that he has been served an injustice? Wow - I wonder what that would do to our legal system? First you have to win a popularity contest, THEN you have a chance of winning your legal case.
Your senility has also allowed you to forget that I work at nights. I just got out of bed a couple hours ago. In twenty minutes, I'll be headed to work.
Now, you run along, and take your own advice. Get some sleep, and prepare yourself for another tough day tomorrow.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday August 08 2018, @03:21AM (12 children)
You don't do so well in the morning (night) either it seems. "I know you are but what am I?" hasn't worked since first grade, and doubly so when you're talking to someone at least 20 or 30 years younger than you when the issue at hand is the onset of dementia. Are you *sure* you work at night, or even at all, or are you just wandering around the neighborhood in slippers and shorts swearing at lampposts and trash bins?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday August 08 2018, @02:08PM (11 children)
If I should live to be 120, I'll still be sharper and wittier than you ever were. You need to accept that, with your 92nd percentile bullshit.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @04:19PM (10 children)
Its funny how losers like you puff themselves up with meaningless drivel like that. Its like a circular mental disorder where the lamer you are, the more you feel like you can prove you aren't lame by acting lame.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday August 08 2018, @04:46PM (9 children)
Nahhhhh - it's just fun kicking 'Zumi because she's the one who bragged about 92nd percentile. Like - that's really something, huh? My parents got a letter, informing them that the test only ranks to the 99th percentile, and that I should be evaluated for accelerated education, blah blah blah.
Now, TBH, 92nd isn't bad. But, some chick who feels the need to brag on it? She needs to be kicked around some. This is the same chick who was 6 feet tall, until she wasn't.
Losers like me? You've never met a loser like me. I'm a winner, always. That's one of the benefits of being a veteran. And male. And hetero. And Christian. And white. I can't lose!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @04:49PM (8 children)
Lol, your self-owns are so fucking amazing.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday August 08 2018, @05:04PM (7 children)
Could it be that I'm just talking over your head? Remember when you were really little, and the adults would talk, talk, talk - and none of it made sense? Maybe you're in just such a position today.
More serious question: How many members here do you think are NOT 90th percentile, or higher? I mean, this is Soylent - not Facefook or Twitworld or some such.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @05:29PM (6 children)
You are duning krueger personified. Let me explain it to you at your level - you think you are hot snot on a gold platter when are really gold boogers on a paper plate.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday August 08 2018, @06:23PM (5 children)
Whatever lets you sleep at night.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @06:37PM (4 children)
So many people have said that you that you now think it means something if you parrot it.
Another unintentional self-own when you thought you were being cool and sardonic. Its the compulsion of a weak, diseased ego. You just can't help yourself.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday August 08 2018, @08:47PM (3 children)
I'm beginning to think AC is just Zumi flapping her gums. Whether that be so or not - you just can't stand it. I am, and that is enough to perturb you. You can't change me, or influence me, so that perturbs you even more. It bothers you that I just don't give a damn about your feelings, or opinion, or whatever the fuck.
Find a life. There's no future in yapping at me like a silly damned chihuahua.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @08:53PM (1 child)
The traitor brags about his amazing closed mind.
The pathetic self-owns just won't stop. Ya can even open your mouth for a second without sucking on your own toes.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday August 09 2018, @01:37AM
And you apparently brag about your inability to open a wet paper bag. I'll just note that retarded name calling doesn't seem to open peoples' minds.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday August 09 2018, @12:04AM
LOL, sorry, I don't post AC. Never did, never will, don't feel the need to. I do appreciate that there are other people taking time to point out what a complete doddering wreck of self-important delusions you are, though. Don't worry, you'll be dead inside of a decade at this rate.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @07:12PM (1 child)
Russia isn't communist anymore. They've reverted to a sort of tsarist feudalism. And the US had a hand in that, when the wall came down and their society started to collapse we sent in the agents of unfettered capitalism and they did everything that the commies were afraid the west would do. The end result was the rise of the robber-baron oligarchs who just took state resources for themselves.
I don't know if we could have made a difference, but we certainly didn't try to help the country transition to a representative democracy, we just kinda assumed it would automatically happen because we have this dangerous myth that liberal order is self-assembling when the reality is that it is the exact opposite, it takes experience, skill, lots and lots of hard work and way too much luck. Its very much like the rise of ISIS after we kicked over Sadam's bureaucracy and couldn't be bothered to build anything in its place.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday August 08 2018, @11:57PM
Yeah, if Reagan were smart (and not already half-senile with Alzheimer's...) he'd have tried a sort of second Marshall Plan.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @03:40AM (2 children)
You swore an oath. And here you are putting our enemies above your fellow countrymen. You god damn traitor.
You are a fucking disgrace.
Scum worse than Bergdhal. Never show your face around her again you shitstain, you're not even worthy of being a boot.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday August 08 2018, @02:05PM (1 child)
Hey, Fuckface. I swore an oath to defend my country against all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC. These days, Russia isn't our enemy. China is still something of an enemy, but our former president Clinton sold out to them, and there's nothing I can do about it. Meanwhile, Fuckfaces like yourself are enemy enough to occupy many of us. You're damned right, I'll support any honest Russian or Chinese who mean me well, ahead of the Democratic party and their legion of progressive shitstains.
Funny you should mention Bergdahl. It was your progressive president who ransomed that deserted traitor. Not our dumbass currently in office, but the progressive half-white Muslim.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @03:29PM
Mike Pompeo Director CIA:
“The actions of this administration make clear that President Trump’s national security strategy, rightfully, has identified Russia as a danger to our country.” [whitehouse.gov]
Nikiy Haley UN Ambassador:
“We don’t trust Russia. We don’t trust Putin. We never will. They’re never going to be our friend. That’s just a fact,” [thehill.com]
“I will tell you that when a country can come interfere in another country’s elections, that is warfare." [politico.com]
John Bolton National Security Advisor:
"[Russia's attack on US elections] is in fact a casus belli, a true act of war, and one Washington will never tolerate." [smh.com.au]
YOU FUCKING SHITSTAIN TRAITOR CUNT
Russia is YOUR friend, but they are OUR enemy.
When you stand with our country's enemies this isn't your home anymore. Get the FUCK OUT!!
Go off to Russia where they put you in prison if you prosletyze jesus [bpnews.net] Enjoy your fucking friends you limpdick quisling bootlicker. You are a traitor to your country and a traitor to the lord.