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posted by martyb on Thursday August 16 2018, @09:57AM   Printer-friendly
from the What-would-Emma-Lazarus-say? dept.

CBS News reports:

The Trump administration is expected to issue a proposal in coming weeks that would make it harder for legal immigrants to become citizens or get green cards if they have ever used a range of popular public welfare programs, including Obamacare, four sources with knowledge of the plan told NBC News.

The move, which would not need congressional approval, is part of White House senior adviser Stephen Miller's plan to limit the number of migrants who obtain legal status in the U.S. each year.

[...] Though its effects could be far-reaching, the proposal to limit citizenship to immigrants who have not used public assistance does not appear to need congressional approval. As the Clinton administration did in 1999, the Trump administration would be redefining the term "public charge," which first emerged in immigration law in the 1800s in order to shield the U.S. from burdening too many immigrants who could not contribute to society.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 16 2018, @02:35PM (1 child)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 16 2018, @02:35PM (#722195) Journal

    Actually, you've tasted the Kool-Aid, and you've been mildly poisoned.

    There is no work that Americans won't do. Need your septic tank flushed? I can point you to a business staffed by Americans - black and white, and on ocassion a Native American - who will be more than happy to provide that service. Need corn picked? I've done it, and I know plenty of people who will do it. Strawberries? Zuchini? Watermelons? I know many people who will PAY THE FARMER to allow them to go out into the field, to pick their own fruits and produce. There is no work that Americans won't do.

    The real problem is the welfare system. We actually pay people to do nothing. Now, if able bodied people can learn to play the system, and be paid to sit on their asses, why in hell would they want to work?

    End the welfare, or cut it drastically, or at least change how it works.

    We've discussed the system on Soylent in the past. The system actually PUNISHES people for doing stupid stuff like taking a part-time job. You make 150 dollar, and hope to spend it on the kids - but welfare reduces your welfare check by 200 dollar, and you can't even feed the kids. The system is broken - no matter your political leaning, no matter your philosophy in life, we can all agree that the system is broken.

    We need to fix that system, then all the apparent lazy asses in the projects, who have nothing better to do than trade drugs, will find some kind of meaningful work.

    There is no work that a hungry man will not do. None. And, THAT is the difference between welfare bums, and immigrants. The immigrants are hungry - welfare bums are fat and lazy because we've TAUGHT THEM TO BE FAT AND LAZY!!

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @08:06PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @08:06PM (#722463)

    It's one thing going to a U-pick to pick berries, corn, etc. It is quite another to do it for 8+ hrs/day, 8 days a week, as fast as you can, because the pay is by the pound, no real minimum wage in the fields.

    the high school kids get some "charity" work detasseling corn, family & friends, and sometimes even paid a little extra. But if they were older? Or brown? Farmer John is paying as little as possible for it. He probably already does anyways for the "back 40".

    While there are some "good" people willing to work (and get paid respectfully) to do things like pump septic tanks, mow lawns, etc., and customers who will pay for them, there are way more people who will only pay as little as they can to get such work done and will only pay out in cash, and have no qualms at all about it. And theres a decent pool of people willing to do said work for cash, too. Maybe they're "illegals". Maybe ex-cons. whatever.

    But squeezing that lanor pool is eventually going to make some of your voter base upset. Dogma/ideology be damned, you're fking with their money now.