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The Trump administration is expected to issue a proposal in coming weeks that would make it harder for legal immigrants to become citizens or get green cards if they have ever used a range of popular public welfare programs, including Obamacare, four sources with knowledge of the plan told NBC News.
The move, which would not need congressional approval, is part of White House senior adviser Stephen Miller's plan to limit the number of migrants who obtain legal status in the U.S. each year.
[...] Though its effects could be far-reaching, the proposal to limit citizenship to immigrants who have not used public assistance does not appear to need congressional approval. As the Clinton administration did in 1999, the Trump administration would be redefining the term "public charge," which first emerged in immigration law in the 1800s in order to shield the U.S. from burdening too many immigrants who could not contribute to society.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Thursday August 16 2018, @04:17PM (6 children)
The whole point of the discussion is that is not very likely on average, certainly less likely that the rest of your story about government violence.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Thexalon on Thursday August 16 2018, @04:23PM (5 children)
And yet the same folks complaining about immigrants not working are at the same time complaining that immigrants are taking jobs away from hardworking Americans. So which is it? They're unemployed leeches, or they took our jobs? Logically, it can't be both.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @04:37PM (4 children)
The two are not mutually exclusive, it's possible to work for cash and claim welfare.
(Score: 3, Informative) by VLM on Thursday August 16 2018, @05:15PM (1 child)
Its possible to work for W-2 and claim massive benefits. Famously, Walmart works hard to sign its associates up for food stamps. Walmart is the biggest welfare queen I'm aware of.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 17 2018, @11:45PM
Can we kick Walmart out too? Send it to China where every piece of crap it sells are from.
Bring back the family owned businesses!
(Score: 4, Interesting) by VanessaE on Thursday August 16 2018, @07:38PM (1 child)
Except that it's not really.
To apply for "welfare" (whether it's SSI, SNAP, or something else), you have to describe all sources of active income (work, friends, family, dividends, etc), all static assets (savings, CDs/bonds, your car and/or house, and any other things of significant value).
If you have no income to speak of, or in this case if you get paid "under the table" and claim to have none, then you have to prove with legal documentation (such as a federal- or state-level disability declaration) why you can't earn more, e.g. by working.
Oh, and you have to describe your expenses (rent, electric, fuel, etc.) and explain how you pay them.
Oh, and they require generally 2 to 3 government-issued IDs, one of which is a federal-issue Social Security card.
It's not as easy as the GOP would have you believe, to get "welfare", if you're able-bodied and have no kids.
Been there, doing that (and grateful that the help exists).
Those that game the system are surely mostly just using a sob story to get their case worker to bend the rules.
(Score: 2) by VanessaE on Thursday August 16 2018, @07:41PM
* ["Been there, doing that (I'm disabled,* and that the help exists)"]