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The Trump administration is expected to issue a proposal in coming weeks that would make it harder for legal immigrants to become citizens or get green cards if they have ever used a range of popular public welfare programs, including Obamacare, four sources with knowledge of the plan told NBC News.
The move, which would not need congressional approval, is part of White House senior adviser Stephen Miller's plan to limit the number of migrants who obtain legal status in the U.S. each year.
[...] Though its effects could be far-reaching, the proposal to limit citizenship to immigrants who have not used public assistance does not appear to need congressional approval. As the Clinton administration did in 1999, the Trump administration would be redefining the term "public charge," which first emerged in immigration law in the 1800s in order to shield the U.S. from burdening too many immigrants who could not contribute to society.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Thursday August 16 2018, @04:21PM (6 children)
We should just destroy that monument, then, as it means nothing.
This sig for rent.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday August 16 2018, @04:35PM (5 children)
If you can't tell the difference between giving what you can afford and giving away the rent money, you have no place in any serious discussion.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Thursday August 16 2018, @05:01PM (4 children)
True.
Total amount of 2018 Federal Budget: $3.654 Trillion (income), $4.094 Trillion (expenditures).
Net fiscal cost of migrant support, not just those who can't support themselves, from Federal coffers: $300 Billion (White House number), and argued could be as low as $44 Billion in discretionary money that could actually be saved. (Source. [politifact.com] I'm inclined to accept the $44 Billion number, as explained the other $256 Billion doesn't go away as expenditures just because there are no migrants it would just be allocated elsewhere.
$44 Billion against $4.094 Trillion, or 1.07%. That's nowhere even close to rent money and is easily affordable as a discretionary item. (Let alone discussing what we could do to reduce that gap if we started treating immigrants as welcome and not automatically as criminal rapists by default the way the current administration wants to.)
Thanks for acknowledging you have no place in serious discussion.
This sig for rent.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday August 16 2018, @05:13PM (3 children)
Every bit makes a difference when we're spending more than what we take in per year. When you're already in over your head, at least stop digging as enthusiastically if you absolutely must keep digging.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Thursday August 16 2018, @05:45PM
And you prioritise stopping the dig-by-shovel and let the dig-by-excavator continue?
Doesn't seem wise to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @06:15PM (1 child)
If the anti-American Conservatard terrorists would stop flushing so much money down the toilet with their excessive "defense" spending (10% of which goes directly into the pockets of their shit stain "defense contractor" buddies and provides exactly ZERO benefit to anyone else) they wouldn't have that problem.
I completely agree. Let's slash the defense budget (the biggest thing in the budget) by an order of magnitude. There's absolutely no valid reason why we need to spend more on "defense" than many of our allies combined. Let's completely cut out corporate welfare. No more Foxcon handouts or anything like them. ("Tax incentive" my fat ass.) No more farm handouts. (They're not subsidies, they're welfare handouts.) No more bank handouts. (Those were not bailouts, they were handouts.) No more welfare to Wal-Mart workers. (Working full time? No welfare for you!) I could go on, but I think I've made my point.
You talk a good talk, but when it comes to actually doing things that will actually help it all turns to a bunch of partisan *derp*.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @06:21PM
Defense isn't the biggest part of the US budget by a good margin https://media.nationalpriorities.org/uploads/budget-graphic.png [nationalpriorities.org] though it does come in 3rd. Also, welfare shouldn't be restricted based on work status, it should be based on actual needs. You can rage all you want about people having too many kids, being irresponsible, whatever, but if you let those kids starve and live in a stressed out household more likely to give them abuse then the net outcome for society is worse than giving those families a helping hand. Not a free ride, I'd hardly call working at Walmart full time a joyous life experience.