A mysterious Russian satellite displaying "very abnormal behaviour" has raised alarm in the US, according to a State Department official. "We don't know for certain what it is and there is no way to verify it," said assistant secretary Yleem Poblete at a conference in Switzerland on 14 August.
She voiced fears that it was impossible to say if the object may be a weapon.
Russia has dismissed the comments as "unfounded, slanderous accusations based on suspicious" [sic].
The satellite in question was launched in October last year. "[The satellite's] behaviour on-orbit was inconsistent with anything seen before from on-orbit inspection or space situational awareness capabilities, including other Russian inspection satellite activities," Ms Poblete told the conference on disarmament in Switzerland.
"Russian intentions with respect to this satellite are unclear and are obviously a very troubling development," she added, citing recent comments made by the commander of Russia's Space Forces, who said adopting "new prototypes of weapons" was a key objective for the force. Ms Poblete said that the US had "serious concerns" that Russia was developing anti-satellite weapons.
[...] [Ms Stickings (Royal United Services Institute - RUSI) said] "The narrative coming from the US is, 'space was really peaceful, now look at what the Russians and Chinese are doing' - ignoring the fact that the US has developed its own capabilities."
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 16 2018, @04:26PM (9 children)
That quote grates across every nerve I have. It's worse than typical meaningless nonsense.
WTF does that mean? At face value, it something like, "We don't know anything, but we can't verify that we don't know anything."
I will note that the quote was in Switzerland. OK, so, maybe the speaker isn't a native English speaker. Perhaps the quote was poorly translated. But, holy shit - the sentence is worse than meaningless as it appears here.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @04:58PM
maybe try reading the article
a declared “space apparatus inspector.”
well we dont know wtf a "space apparatus inspector" is and we cant walk up to it to check
maybe our swiss pal is fine at english and ur not
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @05:00PM
> "We don't know for certain what it is and there is no way to verify it,"
...but all that quote was supposed to do was make/keep you scared. Did it have the desired effect?
(Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @05:45PM
WTF does that mean?
Weasel words. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word [wikipedia.org]
Now you know
(Score: 4, Interesting) by AthanasiusKircher on Thursday August 16 2018, @06:04PM (4 children)
Reminds me of the classic: "There are known knowns..." [wikipedia.org]
Sounds like, according to that characterization, this is mostly an "unknown unknown" with a slight tinge of "known unknown." :)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @07:52PM (1 child)
err, you should get things straight. This is a known unknown. We know something that we don't know. Yeah? Simple?
(Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Friday August 17 2018, @05:46PM
Reading comprehension. Try it.
I said "according to that characterization," i.e. the quoted text. I wasn't addressing the actual state of things in TFA as a rational person would understand them, only the ludicrous quotation.
The clue is also in the smiley I appended to my post. In case you don't know, that's often a symbol of a joke/sarcasm/quip, rather than serious analysis.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @08:28PM (1 child)
Hey, did you know that the phrase(s) would seem to originate from "The Kybalion" a text on Hermetic Philosophy (C) 1912. That's not in wikipedia, but you can find the text of the book online. The original is better than the lame quotes on wp etc. Anyway, just a fact that some of us know these things -- go, google for more :)
and no, the news thing seemed to just be hysterical fear mongering to me. too bad that the propaganda spin is a lot like the stuff that led up to prior world-wars.
(Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Friday August 17 2018, @05:53PM
Well, I'm pretty sure Rumsfeld wasn't quoting an old obscure Hermetic text. And the concept goes back to the foundations of epistemology, at least to ancient Greece, even if the phrasing may be modern.
(Score: 2) by bradley13 on Thursday August 16 2018, @06:42PM
From TFA: "What would be enough information to prove what the purpose of an object is? We have pointed out Russian satellite behavior that is inconsistent with what Russia claims it is – a so-called inspector satellite not acting in a manner consistent with a satellite designed to conduct safe and responsible inspection operations."
Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.