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posted by chromas on Wednesday August 22 2018, @01:28AM   Printer-friendly
from the burn-the-bridges dept.

Mozilla plans to remove all legacy add-ons from their portal.

Support for Firefox ESR 52 will end on September 5, in two weeks, meaning there won't be any official Firefox version that supports legacy add-ons anymore.

Mozilla said today that following this date, it plans to start the process of disabling legacy add-on versions on its add-ons portal located at addons.mozilla.org (also known as the AMO).

"On September 6, 2018, submissions for new legacy add-on versions will be disabled," said Caitlin Neiman, Add-ons Community Manager at Mozilla.

"All legacy add-on versions will be disabled in early October, 2018. Once this happens, users will no longer be able to find [extensions] on AMO," she added.

Isn't modern FOSS great?/s

I can run old Blender if I need. Or go over all the archived .deb from past Debian releases. But Mozilla seems to be special. Time to call the Archive Team or the Wayback Machine.


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  • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday August 23 2018, @12:53AM (5 children)

    by Thexalon (636) on Thursday August 23 2018, @12:53AM (#724977)

    When a SJW demands "no more white male hiring" then the top 90% of the hiring marketplace is excluded and you get a lot of bad decisions and bad code and that is not survivable.
    When a non-SJW does the opposite, then the roughly bottom 10% of the hiring marketplace is excluded, which is quite survivable.

    So, by my math, that means you believe that about 8% of the world's population (white guys) is the top 90% of the hiring pool, while the remaining 92% of the world's population is the bottom 10% of the hiring pool. That is an absurd claim, because of the simple fact that variation within demographic groups on characteristics not directly related to the demographic categorization is nearly always much much larger than any difference between demographic groups.

    I can also supply an obvious counterexample: The best programmer I ever worked with was a Chinese guy, with a PhD and proven and demonstrated expertise in natural language processing. And your policies just ensured that even if you're solving an NLP problem, you're going to pick white guys with less skill in NLP over my Chinese PhD, simply because he isn't white.

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  • (Score: 2) by VLM on Thursday August 23 2018, @12:40PM (4 children)

    by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 23 2018, @12:40PM (#725178)

    I agree with you in that anecdotes do in fact exist in a large enough pool of humanity.

    The point is the relative strategic damage to a company of anti-white-male pro-somalian-woman hiring for a programming position, for example, is simply not survivable in the modern economy. Being either neutral or biased toward the whites is perfectly survivable given large scale racial production.

    You can't be seriously claiming that a company that had a 'no white men only asian men' programmer hiring policy could possibly survive in the economy, regardless of the admitted existence of an anecdote? Also regardless how great that one Chinese dude is, Google has approximately 59000 white employees if you believe the google stats, surely you put them on a scale and its not going to balance very well...

    • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday August 23 2018, @01:21PM (3 children)

      by Thexalon (636) on Thursday August 23 2018, @01:21PM (#725193)

      I agree with you in that anecdotes do in fact exist in a large enough pool of humanity. The point is the relative strategic damage to a company of anti-white-male pro-somalian-woman hiring for a programming position, for example, is simply not survivable in the modern economy.

      Goalpost move: Your argument specifically stated that banning white men was banning the top 90% of the potential hires, while banning everyone else was banning the bottom 10% of potential hires. Ergo, white men must have (in your mind) been the top 90% of job candidates. I demonstrated that you were in fact banning excellent candidates with your "white dudes only" rule, which was all I needed to do to demonstrate that your argument was wrong.

      You can't be seriously claiming that a company that had a 'no white men only asian men' programmer hiring policy could possibly survive in the economy

      Misstating my point: I didn't advocate for a "no white men, only Asian men" policy, I advocated for recognizing and addressing your own biases that are leading you to pick inferior candidates for jobs.

      However, it's easy to demonstrate that a company made up of Asian men can not only survive but thrive in the marketplace: Mitsubishi, Nikon, Samsung, Nintendo, and lots of other well-known brands were started by Asian men, employed only Asian men in their infancy, and still are dominated by Asian men. I've also encountered successful startup companies that were founded and run by Asian guys. Which again isn't a surprising finding: Asians make up somewhere in the ballpark of 40% of humanity, so odds are that about 40% of the people that have the potential to be good techies are Asians, and all available evidence is that the educational systems of many Asian countries are quite good, so the idea that there are millions of highly trained and capable Asian programmers out there isn't at all far-fetched.

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      • (Score: 2) by VLM on Friday August 24 2018, @05:40PM (2 children)

        by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Friday August 24 2018, @05:40PM (#725930)

        hat are leading you to pick inferior candidates for jobs.

        That "you" is rather theoretical in that the only people implementing racist hiring policies are currently devoutly anti-white, and my point is that is not survivable long term in the marketplace, unlike, say, no Somalians which is quite survivable.

        Yes Asians are quite smart indeed with impressive IQs on a racial average. They get to enjoy being discriminated against much like white people, with racist phrases like 'non-asian minority'. Asians are quite capable as a race in general of living in civilized communities, which makes them nice enough neighbors and nice enough immigrants. Good people in general.

        I think we're mostly argumentatively agreeing with each other with a thin layer of word choice propaganda and some anecdotal stuff on top.

        • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Friday August 24 2018, @06:15PM (1 child)

          by Thexalon (636) on Friday August 24 2018, @06:15PM (#725949)

          No, we're not cordially disagreeing with each other: You believe that race is a useful factor for determining intelligence, I don't.

          For instance, you hinted that Somalis were stupid. A simple demonstration that Somalis aren't stupid is that they've figured out how, in a dirt-poor country torn by civil war, to make literally boatloads of money using a couple dozen guys armed with relatively cheap AK-47s and a few small motorboats, out-maneuvering experienced and educated mariners who are backed by the most powerful navies in the world. You can't pull that off if you're stupid.

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          • (Score: 2) by VLM on Sunday August 26 2018, @12:52PM

            by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 26 2018, @12:52PM (#726531)

            You believe that race is a useful factor for determining intelligence, I don't.

            So, it all boils down to I believe in the scientific method and statistics, and you seem to believe in the opposite; perhaps a religious conviction.