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posted by mrpg on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:00AM   Printer-friendly
from the smoke-gets-in-your-home dept.

TechCrunch:

You can tell a lot about what's going on in a home from how much electricity it's using — especially when that information is collected every few minutes and recorded centrally. It's revealing enough that a federal judge has ruled that people with smart meters have a reasonable expectation of privacy and as such law enforcement will require a warrant to acquire that data.

It may sound like a niche win in the fight for digital privacy, and in a way it is, but it's still important. One of the risks we've assumed as consumers in adopting ubiquitous technology in forms like the so-called Internet of Things is that we are generating an immense amount of data we weren't before, and that data is not always protected as it should be.

This case is a great example. Traditional spinning meters are read perhaps once a month by your local utility, and at that level of granularity there's not much you can tell about a house or apartment other than whether perhaps someone has been living there and whether they have abnormally high electricity use — useful information if you were, say, looking for illicit pot growers with a farm in the basement.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:06PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:06PM (#725352)

    I wasn't arguing they are a good thing, just that there are practical upsides apart from micro-billing.

    Y'know, I have never visited a sandwich shop that would charge you less if you came after the lunch rush. Power companies should not be able to charge more for different times of the day. What validation is there for charging more when they are selling more??? Probably just some MBA asshole who never progressed past simple supply-demand graphs in econ, and then someone else realized they could get away with the asshat's idea because they effectively have a monopoly!

  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:16PM (1 child)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:16PM (#725357) Journal

    Power companies should not be able to charge more for different times of the day.

    I would tend to agree in principle.

    The reason both the sandwich shop and the power company SHOULD charge more during peak demand is because of that free market supply and demand thingy.

    But there's something much more important at stake. In the sandwich shop case, if the staff cannot keep up with the line, people will get frustrated and leave. No babies die. Very few animals are molested. Etc. Not a major crisis.

    In the case of the electric utility, if demand exceeds their capacity to generate, everything will go dark. Troll's screens go dark, making mom's basement totally dark. Major crisis. People have to wash dishes the old fashioned way . . . if any of the population remembers how this was done.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @11:33PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @11:33PM (#725469)

      I have never once in my life heard someone say "Oh I can't do that now I want to wait until non-peak usage time."

      It is just a way to suck up money, and the supply / demand thing makes sense when you consider the costs of bulk production vs. small scale. If you have only a few customers then you must charge high rates for your product to cover costs. In most markets this works out pretty well because if a business makes efficiency gains they can charge the same rate as their competitors and get extra profit. If they raise their prices they will lose customers, and once other businesses figure out the same efficiency gains then they will undercut the first business. This keeps the prices in check with reality.

      For energy markets there is basically zero competition, and a lot of MBAs figured out they could use that same supply/demand basic logic to just screw the customers. Just because you can do something doesn't make it right, and sadly with power companies their monopoly insulates them from the consequences of being bad.