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posted by martyb on Thursday August 23 2018, @05:34PM   Printer-friendly
from the nudge-nudge-wink-wink dept.

Cave girl was half Neanderthal, half Denisovan

Once upon a time, two early humans of different ancestry met at a cave in Russia. Some 50,000 years later, scientists have confirmed that they had a daughter together. DNA extracted from bone fragments found in the cave show the girl was the offspring of a Neanderthal mother and a Denisovan father.

The discovery, reported in Nature, gives a rare insight into the lives of our closest ancient human relatives. Neanderthals and Denisovans were humans like us, but belonged to different species.

"We knew from previous studies that Neanderthals and Denisovans must have occasionally had children together," says Viviane Slon, researcher at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology (MPI-EVA) in Leipzig, Germany. "But I never thought we would be so lucky as to find an actual offspring of the two groups."

Denisovan.

Also at Inverse, NYT, and The Atlantic.

The genome of the offspring of a Neanderthal mother and a Denisovan father (DOI: 10.1038/s41586-018-0455-x) (DX)


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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @05:45PM (13 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @05:45PM (#725297)

    Neanderthals were not "backwards", they were egalitarian. This was among the social traits that allowed them to be out competed (breeding and hunting) by Homo Sapiens emigrating from Africa. Sound familiar?

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @06:17PM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @06:17PM (#725322)

    Oh I know, the whole thing is a joke. If anything liberal ideology is more neanderthal and conservatives are modern homo sapiens.

    More kids? Check for outbreeding
    Less egalitarian? Check for almost every aspect except the professed "WWJD" bullcrap none of them follow

    It sure does sound familiar, but not how you think. At least modern homo sapiens have started to realize that egalitarian societies are better all around and thus you backwards conservatives are getting "out competed" ideologically. So sad, much crying.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @06:23PM (9 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @06:23PM (#725326)

      It sure does sound familiar, but not how you think. At least modern homo sapiens have started to realize that egalitarian societies are better all around and thus you backwards conservatives are getting "out competed" ideologically. So sad, much crying.

      Bit late for you to start crying about it when you need mass immigration from primitive, patriarchal societies just to maintain population.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @06:51PM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @06:51PM (#725342)

        *WOOOOOSH*

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:03PM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:03PM (#725348)

          Ahhh, the wooshing sound. Often heard when placing an empty sea shell to ones ear or when a liberal opens their mouth.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:08PM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:08PM (#725355)

            I'm sorry you were born into a family of idiots, maybe next lifetime you'll get parents that read to you as a child and your reading comprehension won't be so atrocious (bad).

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:01PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:01PM (#725380)

              Wrong again. We are unrelated.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:23PM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:23PM (#725387)

                Thank FSM! I like being able to think for myself.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:35PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:35PM (#725392)

                  Now go and put your colander on.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:28PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:28PM (#725366)

        Why must we maintain population?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:05PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:05PM (#725382)

          So the crooks in politics and finance have people to steal from.

        • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Thursday August 23 2018, @09:07PM

          by MostCynical (2589) on Thursday August 23 2018, @09:07PM (#725406) Journal

          Because the economists demand growth.
          Politicians listen to economists.

          Bit like Macbeth and the witches, really, only economists probably only kill an occasional goat or chicken to read the entrails.

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          "I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday August 24 2018, @11:58AM (1 child)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday August 24 2018, @11:58AM (#725753) Journal

      At least modern homo sapiens have started to realize that egalitarian societies are better all around and thus you backwards conservatives are getting "out competed" ideologically.

      Interesting how basic principles aren't established here. For example, what societies are actually egalitarian in the first place? Just because someone advertises something as egalitarian (or some other positive label) doesn't make it so.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 24 2018, @01:14PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 24 2018, @01:14PM (#725777)

        You've actually spoken to some neanderthals?! What were they like?