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posted by chromas on Saturday August 25 2018, @10:12PM   Printer-friendly
from the you-wouldn't-download-a-speech dept.

Submitted via IRC for SoyCow1984

The entertainment industries are growing increasingly frustrated with major Internet platforms that, in their view, are not doing enough to tackle online piracy.

This was also the topic of a speech given by MPAA chief Charles Rivkin, during the TPI Aspen Forum yesterday.

[...] "I want to address one of the most vibrant and interconnected ecosystems in human history. That, of course, is the internet. And as we meet, the healthy and vibrant internet that we all want is in serious jeopardy," Rivkin says.

[...] While the complaints about Internet piracy are not new, the MPAA ties piracy in with more recent debates about fake news, election meddling, and hate speech. From Cambridge Analytica to Infowars.

Rivkin calls for a national conversation on how to return the Internet to a place of vibrant but civil discourse. A place where fake news, hate speech, and piracy are properly dealt with.

Eventually, this leads the MPAA's boss to Silicon Valley. Rivkin sees a major role for Internet platforms to do more to stop piracy and other types of abuse. If that doesn't happen voluntarily, the US Government could step in, he suggests

[...] The widespread problem of online piracy is a sign of worse to come, the MPAA chief suggests.

"Online piracy is also the proverbial canary in a coal mine. The same pervasive theft that my industry faces is part of a continuum of toxic developments that harm all of us in this ecosystem – consumers, creators, and commercial operators alike," he says.

In his speech, Rivkin refers to the "broken windows" theory to illustrate his point. This theory suggests that an atmosphere of lawlessness is created when small crimes are left unpunished. Seeing broken windows in the streets makes it more likely that others will start vandalizing as well.

Source: https://torrentfreak.com/piracy-is-the-internets-canary-in-the-coal-mine-mpaa-chief-says-180821/


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 25 2018, @11:53PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 25 2018, @11:53PM (#726399)

    Rivkin calls for a national conversation on how to return the Internet to a place of vibrant but civil discourse. A place where fake news, hate speech, and piracy are properly dealt with.

    When oh when was the internet a "place of vibrant but civil discourse"? I beg you, link me that magical news group / mailing list / web forum / irc server that wasn't trolled on a weekly basis at the very least and that didn't have the occasional Nazi nutjob spreading fud & poison. Go on, I'll wait...

    While you're at it, people are pirating more nowadays?! Holy shit of all the lies... Fuck this lying bastard. Biggest fake news troll I've ever seen. And I had discussions with flat earthers mind you.

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 26 2018, @02:36AM (6 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 26 2018, @02:36AM (#726426) Journal

    Well - parse the words. Rivkin is setting a trap. "Vibrant" is what you have at a bazaar. "Civil" as Rivkin uses it would be the cathedral. And, Rivkin wants to have a police state that keeps things "civil". In reality, the bazaar is civil, but not as Rivkin pictures it. Sure, down at the bazaar, you have the odd fool on a soapbox, preaching against the government, or exposing corporate criminal activity, or stirring resentment against the immigrants from Transylvania. But - it's civil, in that, you may take it or leave it.

    Rivkin's "civil" cathedral cannot be left. You are the prisoner of his cathedral. Think Apple, but with government troops backing every edict from corporate headquarters. A priest, or policeman, or soldier at every access point, looking over your shoulder to ensure that you're not "stealing" something.

    There never was a "vibrant but civil" internet as Rivkin pictures it. Orwelle wrote about it though.

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday August 26 2018, @03:05AM (5 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 26 2018, @03:05AM (#726433) Journal

      Rivkin's "civil" cathedral cannot be left.

      (Well, glad you admit it - for quite some time you keep accusing the left of all sorts bad)
      So... is it right then?

      (grin)

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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
      • (Score: 2, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 26 2018, @04:27AM (4 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 26 2018, @04:27AM (#726444) Journal

        Of course not. It's socialist. Privatized profits, and socialized expenses and socialized risk.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 26 2018, @01:59PM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 26 2018, @01:59PM (#726546)

          It's socialist. Privatized profits, and socialized expenses and socialized risk.

          You live in a parallel universe, which happens to use the same languages but the meaning of words are twisted.

          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 26 2018, @02:37PM (2 children)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 26 2018, @02:37PM (#726559) Journal

            Not at all. Look at all of the telcos. Privatized profit, and socialized risk, just like the banks. If you still believe in the free market, then you're in some parallel universe, 'cause we ain't got it here.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 26 2018, @05:46PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 26 2018, @05:46PM (#726612)

              Socialized risks != socialism. I know it is hard, but i believe ol runaway can still learn new tricks.

              • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 26 2018, @05:58PM

                by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 26 2018, @05:58PM (#726622) Journal

                Well it certainly isn't capitalism. In captialism, you put up the capital, you make it work, or it fails. When it fails, you lose it all. When it does work, the profits are all yours. The apparent opposite of capitalism is socialism, so when we socialize the risk and the losses, we might presume that we are looking at socialism. And the end result isn't so very different from failed socialist countries. While peasants were starving in the fields and forests, the party leaders are eating caviar and such.

  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday August 26 2018, @02:57AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 26 2018, @02:57AM (#726432) Journal

    When oh when was the internet a "place of vibrant but civil discourse"?

    Oh, but I do remember such good times.
    It was when the Internet was for porn.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 26 2018, @07:19AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 26 2018, @07:19AM (#726466)

    Rivkin calls for a national conversation on how to return the Internet to a place of vibrant but civil discourse. A place where fake news, hate speech, and piracy are properly dealt with.

    When oh when was the internet a "place of vibrant but civil discourse"? I beg you, link me that magical news group / mailing list / web forum / irc server that wasn't trolled on a weekly basis at the very least and that didn't have the occasional Nazi nutjob spreading fud & poison. Go on, I'll wait...

    Not that I don't agree with you, and I wish to hell I still had the fan-fold printouts from the early 80's with some classic early examples from the news groups (1983-85, we had limited access to ARPANET, so had to talk nicely to the sysadmins to abuse the connection when it was up, they wouldn't allow us direct access, so we had to give them a list of groups we wanted, and once a week we got a large fan-fold printout of them), you would have to agree than no matter how bad the Trolls were, the Internet was, in general, a nicer place before shysters like this Rivkin lamprey began attaching themselves to it.

    Still, Eternal September eh?, the gift that keeps on giving....