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posted by Fnord666 on Monday August 27 2018, @09:59AM   Printer-friendly
from the two-bells-and-all's-not-well dept.

Submitted via IRC for SoyCow4408

Buried on page 25 of the 2019 budget proposal for the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), under the heading "Fundamental Measurement, Quantum Science, and Measurement Dissemination", there's a short entry that has caused plenty of debate and even a fair deal of anger among those in the amateur radio scene:

NIST will discontinue the dissemination of the U.S. time and frequency via the NIST radio stations in Hawaii and Ft. Collins, CO. These radio stations transmit signals that are used to synchronize consumer electronic products like wall clocks, clock radios, and wristwatches, and may be used in other applications like appliances, cameras, and irrigation controllers.

The NIST stations in Hawaii and Colorado are the home of WWV, WWVH, and WWVB. The oldest of these stations, WWV, has been broadcasting in some form or another since 1920; making it the longest continually operating radio station in the United States. Yet in order to save approximately $6.3 million, these time and frequency standard stations are potentially on the chopping block.

Source: https://hackaday.com/2018/08/20/what-will-you-do-if-wwvb-goes-silent/


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 27 2018, @02:42PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 27 2018, @02:42PM (#726911)

    So what *would* you cut then?

    Police, fire, public schools.

    Everything that is 'so important' that the government will literally come to your house and seize everything you have and/or shoot you if you don't pay for them. It's called "property tax".

    If I don't want to pay a road tax, I can stop driving. If I don't want to pay sales tax, I can stop buying stuff. If I don't want to pay for police, fire, and public schools...they show up and *force* me to pay for them.

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  • (Score: 2) by vux984 on Monday August 27 2018, @03:54PM (1 child)

    by vux984 (5045) on Monday August 27 2018, @03:54PM (#726957)

    "It's called "property tax"

    If you don't want to pay property tax, don't own property.

    "the government will literally come to your house and seize everything you have and/or shoot you if you don't pay for them."

    Oh grow up; they'll only shoot you if you get violent in your confrontation. No one has ever been shot simply for refusing to pay taxes. You can get shot for speeding too, if instead of stopping when caught you decide to try to use the vehicle to run people down to get away... but then even in that case, you aren't being shot for speeding are you? No, its for the attempted murder.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Arik on Monday August 27 2018, @04:23PM

      by Arik (4543) on Monday August 27 2018, @04:23PM (#726971) Journal
      "Oh grow up; they'll only shoot you if you get violent in your confrontation. No one has ever been shot simply for refusing to pay taxes."

      You're right, sort of. One wouldn't get shot directly for refusing to pay taxes. First they come to take ones things, to evict one from ones property, or perhaps even for the purpose of kidnapping. Then, if one resists, one is shot. Not for refusing to pay taxes. For resisting.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DannyB on Monday August 27 2018, @06:19PM

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 27 2018, @06:19PM (#727051) Journal

    I can stop driving [ . . . ] I can stop buying stuff. [ . . . ] I don't want to pay for police, fire, and public schools . . .

    There must be a tiny island somewhere that would suit your unique tastes. Or a remote cave somewhere.

    Humans have always formed governments. Taxes are at least as old as recorded history.

    they show up and *force* me to pay for them.

    It is possible to stop paying taxes. They won't force you to pay them. They will eventually take you to a place with: No driving. No buying stuff. No need for police, fire or public schools.

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