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posted by martyb on Thursday August 30 2018, @09:58PM   Printer-friendly
from the what-do-they-fear? dept.

Australia flags denying U.S. whistleblower Chelsea Manning entry visa

Australia has signaled it is preparing to ban U.S. whistleblower Chelsea Manning from entering the country ahead of a scheduled speaking tour, the organizer of the engagements said. Manning, the transgender U.S. Army soldier who served seven years in military prison for leaking classified data, is scheduled to speak at the Sydney Opera House at the weekend.

However, Suzi Jamil, owner of the company organizing Manning's speaking tour in Australia, said late on Wednesday Manning had received a notice from the Australian government informing her Canberra was considering cancelling her visa. [...] Australian law allows the immigration minister to deny anyone a visa if they do not pass a character test, a broad criteria that affords the government sweeping powers.

Manning is scheduled to travel to New Zealand after finishing her three events in Australia but the center-right opposition National Party has also called for her to be denied entry.

Also at NYT.

Related: Chelsea Manning Released from Prison, Remains on Active Duty Pending Appeal
Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 31 2018, @12:54AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 31 2018, @12:54AM (#728514)

    "Fact is, we just don't need to remove those traits."

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    You'd think differently if you were responsible for a profoundly autistic child who would need to be watched every second of every hour of every day for 35+ years.

    Or maybe you'd enjoy 35 years of a living hell ? Maybe you like hearing a child scream for no reason at any hour of the day or night for 35+ years ?

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 31 2018, @03:45AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 31 2018, @03:45AM (#728597)

    No I wouldn't. Because I wouldn't be in those circumstances. I'd just dump the kid on the state. Pater Patriae comes with Parens patriae. If the state gets the right to intervene in family life by removing children from unsafe parents or messing around with our education, they're also responsible for taking care of children that the parents feel they can't take care off themselves. There all sorts of these "responsibility equals power which equals responsibility" social constructs that people just don't get. The worst one is probably that drug enforcement and food safety = free health care. People just don't understand that if the government gets the right to tell us what we can and can't put in our bodies or produce and sell, than it becomes responsible for our health. It's not even socialism. It's just what real checks and balanced looks like.

    And let me make a little promise to you: When 90% of autistic kids end up in the government's care, I guarantee you the government will at least fund free prenatal tests and abortions. The problem will never really go away. But it will turn into a no-problem. And no real social engineering would be involved since the same kids that would have been left for dead by their kids under minimal government circumstances would be left in institutes.

    Let the gods decides what's crueler. But I can tell you what's fairer.

    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 31 2018, @06:08AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 31 2018, @06:08AM (#728630)

      "I'd just dump the kid on the state."

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      Obviously you are not a parent, and I sincerely hope that fate does not allow you to become one, because you're a piece of shit.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 31 2018, @08:27AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 31 2018, @08:27AM (#728662)

        Just because you are privileged enough to be able to take care of an autistic child does not mean that we all are.
        I realize GP was being an ignorant asshole (that's my explanation for the word "dump"), but being ignorant about such situations is the norm, and people simply cannot understand.
        I am not a parent of a problem child, and I have no idea what they go through, but I can certainly see how in most cases a child who needs constant supervision cannot be left in the care of the parents.
        I would find it perfectly normal for such parents to go insane (and possibly kill the child in a fit of rage), and they would certainly need to already have a lot of money, or someone would need to provide them with an income plus shopping plus cooking and cleaning.
        I can certainly tell you that if I had such a child, I could not keep my job, and I would need my job in order to feed the child.