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posted by martyb on Friday August 31 2018, @07:12PM   Printer-friendly
from the it's-"saving"-not-"savings"-time dept.

European Commission to Recommend Abolition of Daylight Saving Time

https://www.dw.com/en/eu-to-stop-changing-the-clocks-juncker-pledges/a-45300586

Speaking to German public broadcaster ZDF, Juncker said that he would push for the changing clocks to be abolished and that the Commission "will decide on it today."

[...] Those who are looking forward to future undisturbed sleep will have to wait a while longer. The European Commission, the EU's top executive body, will need to agree on the measure and put forward a draft law on abolishing daylight saving time. The EU Parliament and the bloc's currently 28-member states would also then need to approve the measure.

The Commission is set to release the official results of the online poll, which experienced several technical problems due to the high level of interest when it was first launched online.

Clock Changes: EU Backs Ending Daylight Saving Time

Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45366390

The EU Commission is proposing to end the practice of adjusting clocks by an hour in spring and autumn after a survey found most Europeans opposed it.

Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker said millions "believe that in future, summer time should be year-round, and that's what will happen".

The Commission's proposal requires support from the 28 national governments and MEPs to become law.

In the EU clocks switch between winter and summer under daylight saving time.

A European Parliament resolution says it is "crucial to maintain a unified EU time regime".

However, the Commission has not yet drafted details of the proposed change.

Daylight Saving Time is a bad idea in a modern world with electric lights, it should have been scrapped ages ago.


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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 31 2018, @07:59PM (18 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 31 2018, @07:59PM (#728935)

    I can sort of see a point 120+ years ago for people who mainly lived and worked in cities, but today we have these new fanged things called ' electric light ' that are everywhere..

    ( for people in rural areas, it never made any sense )

    Abolish it planet wide.. NOW.

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  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday August 31 2018, @08:08PM (9 children)

    Rural professions don't work by the clock, they work by the sun. So, yeah, it never made any sense for them to be saddled with DST. Unfortunately, if your goal is to save energy, it still makes sense in cities even with electric lighting. Personally, I don't give a fuck about saving energy if it's going to inconvenience me and put me in a shitty mood for a week or more twice a year.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 31 2018, @08:44PM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 31 2018, @08:44PM (#728956)

      Don’t be a retard, you lose an hour only once a year. The other time you get a bonus hour to recharge.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by maxwell demon on Friday August 31 2018, @09:07PM (1 child)

        by maxwell demon (1608) on Friday August 31 2018, @09:07PM (#728964) Journal

        Yeah, you get your hour back after half a year. But where is the interest?

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        • (Score: 3, Funny) by Gaaark on Friday August 31 2018, @09:38PM

          by Gaaark (41) on Friday August 31 2018, @09:38PM (#728977) Journal

          And don't forget about the exchange rate!

          It costs an hour and (approx) 22 minutes to get your hour, here in Canada at least.

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      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 31 2018, @09:11PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 31 2018, @09:11PM (#728966)

        Not necessarily, sudden shifts to your biological clock are bad. It isn't as bad as losing an hour but that is mostly because people don't properly plan to go to sleep early. Massive Buzzard tends to be more sensitive than the average bear so I can totally believe his claims.

      • (Score: 3, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday August 31 2018, @09:39PM (2 children)

        That "bonus hour" means I'm awake before the coffee has made itself. This is not a win in my book.

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        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 01 2018, @07:21PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 01 2018, @07:21PM (#729316)

          That "bonus hour"

          Doc, my health is perfect. That only problem I have is that I regularly crap at precisely 8 o'clock every morning

          What's wrong with that? Most people would love to be that regular

          Yeah, but I don't wake up until 9!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 02 2018, @01:44PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 02 2018, @01:44PM (#729503)

          learn to set your coffee maker to start an hour earlier?

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by hemocyanin on Saturday September 01 2018, @12:03AM (1 child)

      by hemocyanin (186) on Saturday September 01 2018, @12:03AM (#729032) Journal

      The energy savings are a myth: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/does-daylight-saving-times-save-energy/ [scientificamerican.com]

      In 2006 Indiana instituted daylight saving statewide for the first time. (Before then, daylight time confusingly was in effect in just a handful of Indiana’s counties.) Examining electricity usage and billing since the statewide change, Kotchen and his colleague Laura Grant unexpectedly found that daylight time led to a 1 percent overall rise in residential electricity use, costing the state an extra $9 million. Although daylight time reduces demand for household lighting, the researchers suggest that it increased demand for cooling on summer evenings and heating in early spring and late fall mornings.

      To be fair, that article notes there are some other studies that suggest that, spread over the entire nation and all climatic zones, DST may save about half a percent on electricity. Of course that comes at the cost of death, injury, disfigurement and all the associated economic costs involved in such accidents.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 31 2018, @08:08PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 31 2018, @08:08PM (#728943)

    I thought "fanged things" were Vampires, snakes, etc . . . I had no clue that "electric light" was in that category too!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 01 2018, @01:18AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 01 2018, @01:18AM (#729053)

      Touch the wires and see if it bites you.

  • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Friday August 31 2018, @08:09PM

    by bob_super (1357) on Friday August 31 2018, @08:09PM (#728944)
  • (Score: 5, Touché) by ikanreed on Friday August 31 2018, @08:28PM (4 children)

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Friday August 31 2018, @08:28PM (#728951) Journal

    Why abolish it planetwide, when we can invent a new way for America to be stuck centuries in the past?

    • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Friday August 31 2018, @09:42PM

      by Gaaark (41) on Friday August 31 2018, @09:42PM (#728982) Journal

      "Get off my pasture, dere, Cowboy!"
      "Get off my coliseum, dere, Roman!"
      "Get off my cross, dere, Jesus!"
      "Ugh ugh ugh, dere, Ughmug!"

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 31 2018, @09:49PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 31 2018, @09:49PM (#728989)

      It looks like the EU are slowly waking up to DST .. while comatose to being invaded (er, I mean: being haven for "refugees") and choking on the internal bureaucracy churning out of Brussels.
      USA? Australia? New Zealand? DST will not change unless there is a revolution or a meteor strike. I'm voting for the meteor.

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday September 01 2018, @12:52AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 01 2018, @12:52AM (#729045) Journal

        Australia?... DST will not change unless there is a revolution or a meteor strike. I'm voting for the meteor.

        Don't say [abc.net.au] you weren't warned [abc.net.au]

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    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 01 2018, @06:20AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 01 2018, @06:20AM (#729123)

      I'm in Arizona, also in America and have never had to live DST. I guess Arizonans were smarter than europeans. Same goes for Hawaii.