California passes strongest net neutrality law in the country
California's legislature has approved a bill being called the strongest net neutrality law in the US. The bill would ban internet providers from blocking and throttling legal content and prioritizing some sites and services over others. It would apply these restrictions to both home and mobile connections.
That would essentially restore the net neutrality rules enacted federally under former President Barack Obama, which were later repealed by the Federal Communications Commission under the watch and guidance of current chairman Ajit Pai. But this bill actually goes further than those rules with an outright ban on zero-rating — the practice of offering free data, potentially to the advantage of some companies over others — of specific apps. Zero-rating would, however, still be allowed as long as the free data applies to an entire category of apps. So an ISP could offer free data for all video streaming apps, but not just for Netflix. [...] The Electronic Frontier Foundation called the final legislation "a gold standard net neutrality bill."
Now, the bill heads to the governor's desk. California Gov. Jerry Brown hasn't said whether he'll sign the legislation, but it's garnered the support of top state Democrats, including House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Sen. Kamala Harris.
Also at Engadget.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 02 2018, @01:59AM (13 children)
A bit of an understatement, given that this pesky physics conspires to put limits. Things like the limited EM frequency spectrum one can use or the speed of light.
Bottom line, one wonders if "real competition" isn't as an utopian construct as the limitless exponential grow.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 02 2018, @02:07AM
We just need an infinite number of contract-enforcing turtles. That would let us have real competition.
(Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday September 02 2018, @02:18AM (9 children)
Wireless ain't broadband. Wireless is shit. Long live copper.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday September 02 2018, @02:48AM (1 child)
What about fiber? And not the kind in your colon.
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(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday September 02 2018, @10:45AM
Don't be telling me what I can put in my colon, you something-or-other-phobe!
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Informative) by MostCynical on Sunday September 02 2018, @02:50AM (2 children)
Australia is tearing up all the copper, and replacing it with (some) fibre.
5G just might end up maiking the crappy hybrid/not-really-fibre-NBN redundant [whistleout.com.au]..
Or maybe not [canstarblue.com.au]
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday September 02 2018, @02:57AM (1 child)
5G might reach 20 Gbps. At really short ranges. Probably some fiber should connect the 5G base stations to the Internet. And can a single station serve an entire neighborhood at that speed or just a single house?
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(Score: 2) by MostCynical on Sunday September 02 2018, @03:39AM
Hard to tell how close to "real world" conditins they used, but this suggests it will be fast fro the neighbourhood, not just one house..
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/25/17046346/qualcomm-simulated-5g-tests-san-francisco-frankfurt-mwc-2018 [theverge.com]
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 02 2018, @03:56AM (2 children)
Neither copper nor optical fibre can carry an unlimited bandwidth.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday September 02 2018, @10:47AM
They don't need to. Computers can't process unlimited data. They just need to keep up with the demand.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday September 02 2018, @04:40PM
Relevance? Nothing can, nothing every will be able to carry "unlimited" bandwidth. So - if a 1g fiber isn't good enough, maybe you can run five fibers? And, if you create something new that just blows away fiber, you'll still have a limit - albeit, much higher than fiber.
Meanwhile, I'm still waiting on something faster than 2meg ADSL.
(Score: 2) by EETech1 on Monday September 03 2018, @06:48AM
You misspelled fiber!
(Score: 5, Informative) by martyb on Sunday September 02 2018, @02:20AM
It is a bit of a problem these days because of how the major ISPs have split up the territory so they do not have to compete with each other.
Sure, there are some places with multiple high speed data providers, but the majority of folk in the USA have at *best* a single cable or fiber provider, maybe a much slower DSL option, and then there's mobile (major data caps) and satellite (high latency).
There was a time in the late 90's where one had a choice of multiple DSL providers. They competed on the basis of reliability of service, customer service, price, etc.
Then the local telcos were freed from the requirement to make their lines available at fair and reasonable rates to all interested parties and you ended up with what we have now.
Just require local loop unbundling; let the cable or Telco charge for the line, and let different ISPs compete on features and price, and things would be very different.
But, with the current administration and head of the FCC, that is not likely to happen any time soon.
Wit is intellect, dancing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 02 2018, @01:51PM
Competition is possible if the last mile is publicly owned and exclusivity contracts are banned. Then, ISPs would have to compete on quality of service and price.
That still doesn't mean that net neutrality shouldn't exist, though, regardless of how much competition there might be.