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posted by martyb on Monday September 03 2018, @09:52PM   Printer-friendly
from the Rich-and-poor-treated-the-same dept.

California Governor Jerry Brown has signed Senate Bill 10, the California Money Bail Reform Act, eliminating cash bail in the state:

An overhaul of the state's bail system has been in the works for years, and became an inevitability earlier this year when a California appellate court declared the state's cash bail system unconstitutional. The new law goes into effect in October 2019. "Today, California reforms its bail system so that rich and poor alike are treated fairly," Brown said in a statement, moments after signing the California Money Bail Reform Act.

The governor has waited nearly four decades to revamp the state's cash bail system. In his 1979 State of the State Address, Brown argued the existing process was biased, favoring the wealthy who can afford to pay for their freedom, and penalizing the poor, who often are forced to remain in custody.

[...] Under the California law those arrested and charged with a crime won't be putting up money or borrowing it from a bail bond agent to obtain their release. Instead, local courts will decide who to keep in custody and whom to release while they await trial. Those decisions will be based on an algorithm created by the courts in each jurisdiction.

Bail agents disapprove.

See also: California's 'cautionary tale' for others considering no cash bail system
California's bail bond empire strikes back


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 04 2018, @05:29AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 04 2018, @05:29AM (#730111)

    "Watch you language, son."

    *

    Or WHAT ?

    What the fuck are you going to do to make me not say words you don't like ?

    I'd like to see you try to shut me up.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Tuesday September 04 2018, @05:37AM (4 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 04 2018, @05:37AM (#730112) Journal

    Ignore you.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Tuesday September 04 2018, @06:33AM (3 children)

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 04 2018, @06:33AM (#730128) Journal

      But you are not ignoring them are you? You are actually telling them what they can say and continuing to argue about it when they don't want to listen to you.

      However, I read your original quote as humour - if you meant it as fact then you are out of line. People can say express their views on this site and we are proud of that fact.

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday September 04 2018, @07:01AM (2 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 04 2018, @07:01AM (#730133) Journal

        But you are not ignoring them are you?

        That was my answer to her "Or WHAT ?" question. Apologies, should have quoted to be clearer.

        You are actually telling them what they can say and continuing to argue about it when they don't want to listen to you.

        1. Aren't I free to take whatever decision I like in this regards?
        2. please read again my comment. At no point I say "Never speak like that again".
        I said " better watch you language [just in case you didn't intend to sound like that]: your expression form has strong resemblance with communist and nazi propaganda. Here are some examples of resemblance points."

        Do you assert the resemblance is not there?
        Or do you assert the warning is undeserved?

        However, I read your original quote as humour

        Before I confirm or deny, which "original quote" exactly are you referring to?

        if you meant it as fact then you are out of line. People can say express their views on this site and we are proud of that fact.

        Out of line... exactly how? I don't think you are implying I'm not "of the people" so that "my views are unacceptable for the soylentnews line", therefore I'm a bit in a puzzle about how to interpret your remark.

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        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by janrinok on Tuesday September 04 2018, @11:25AM (1 child)

          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 04 2018, @11:25AM (#730186) Journal

          I don't think you are implying I'm not "of the people" so that "my views are unacceptable for the soylentnews line", therefore I'm a bit in a puzzle about how to interpret your remark.

          I'm not implying that, but if you were serious in saying "Watch you(r) language, son." - which I don't think you were - then you were telling someone else that they shouldn't express their opinion. Upholding free speech means allowing those who express an point of view to which we object to say what they wish.

          However, I think that this exchange is something of a storm in a teacup - I don't think that any offence was intended by anyone, certainly not by myself, and we are 'arguing' over trivial comments. Have a good one, and I'll see you in a later thread!

          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday September 04 2018, @11:48AM

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 04 2018, @11:48AM (#730192) Journal

            I'm not implying that, but if you were serious in saying "Watch you(r) language, son." - which I don't think you were - then you were telling someone else that they shouldn't express their opinion.

            Probably due to my non-native English.
            I literally meant "Watch your language" as in "Watch your form of expression/how you are saying it" and not "Watch what you are saying/the meaning of your speech".

            However, I think that this exchange is something of a storm in a teacup - I don't think that any offence was intended by anyone

            I admit I'm failing to see any storm at all and indeed no offence was meant.

            and we are 'arguing' over trivial comments.

            Mmmmhhh... again I'll take the excuse of my non-native English situation, I'm quite often at lost in finding the right words I need to express the fine nuances I actually intend. Trivial as they may be for native English speakers, I prone to overreaction in this regard, especially when the communication is in writing and any non-verbal clues on the intended meaning are missing.

            (comments like: "Kill yourself." aren't helping either. Not that I expect or demand any kind of help)

            Have a good one,

            You too.

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