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California Governor Jerry Brown has signed Senate Bill 10, the California Money Bail Reform Act, eliminating cash bail in the state:
An overhaul of the state's bail system has been in the works for years, and became an inevitability earlier this year when a California appellate court declared the state's cash bail system unconstitutional. The new law goes into effect in October 2019. "Today, California reforms its bail system so that rich and poor alike are treated fairly," Brown said in a statement, moments after signing the California Money Bail Reform Act.
The governor has waited nearly four decades to revamp the state's cash bail system. In his 1979 State of the State Address, Brown argued the existing process was biased, favoring the wealthy who can afford to pay for their freedom, and penalizing the poor, who often are forced to remain in custody.
[...] Under the California law those arrested and charged with a crime won't be putting up money or borrowing it from a bail bond agent to obtain their release. Instead, local courts will decide who to keep in custody and whom to release while they await trial. Those decisions will be based on an algorithm created by the courts in each jurisdiction.
Bail agents disapprove.
See also: California's 'cautionary tale' for others considering no cash bail system
California's bail bond empire strikes back
(Score: 1) by bussdriver on Tuesday September 04 2018, @06:41AM (3 children)
Snakes (biblical,) leeches (any parasite) are extremely common metaphors for many exploitative professions predating both those modern labels (nazi/commie.) Hell, a leech IS also an adjective!
Just because billions of people get those metaphors over the centuries... and some groups you do not like ALSO get it and use them too doesn't in anyway make one like them... see guilt by association.
If fairness, equal rights, equal enforcement of law are socialism, then the constitution is socialist... and the new testament (bible) way more so. BTW, day fines are FAIR by simple mathematics; just learn how percentages work and why we use them... Americans are so bad at math they think absolute values are more fair than % OR somehow equal application of law is communist.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday September 04 2018, @07:08AM (2 children)
But the "Get rid of that nest of vipers." sounds like any of those individuals/groups along the history willing to use violence to eliminate others, does it not?
("Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 1) by bussdriver on Tuesday September 04 2018, @06:13PM (1 child)
Exterminate cockroaches... clean up the infestation... Any of the classic metaphors all involve some lower life form we do not deal with in a nice way. Taking the metaphor more literally always leads dehumanization and results in behaviors rarely allowed on fellow humans. Wartime propaganda ALWAYS uses such tactics; otherwise, a large number of soldiers will not put in the necessary efforts to win.
That said, violence and terrorism are highly effective for humans (essential elements of warfare;) it is never ruled out completely by almost everybody so it always comes down to setting thresholds. Playing games with classifications becomes very important in crossing those thresholds -- that is , for the minority of people who are consistent with their boundaries. Most humans are hypocrites on their professed thresholds; therefore, they are inconsistent and easily redefined. (Far worse if they do not view hypocrisy as bad.)
Saying something sounds like it might advocate violent actions - it might to you and not to another because it's metaphorical.
Another dimension is that putting all the rest aside, it may be a justifiable remedy just looking for rationalizations (and by extension recruit more like minded people to aid in bandwagon rationalization. You don't question it so much when the crowd agrees even if you got them to agree for very different reasons.) The same reasoning should be logically applied from mild to extreme cases which is what makes Nazi so useful but are sadly over used poorly to the point that fools shut down any discussion that legitimately brings them up. (Also sad, are those who see them as "good people" and then miss the points being made; likely not bright enough to switch the extreme case into a relevant case for themselves.)
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday September 04 2018, @06:33PM
I would not have objected to "Makes those vipers obsolete" or to "Get rid of their social (dis)function".
Putting "get rid" and "vipers" together was too close to suggestion of a violent elimination.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford