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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday September 05 2018, @10:36AM   Printer-friendly
from the will-Harvard-be-one-of-them? dept.

CNBC:

There are over 4,000 colleges and universities in the United States, but Harvard Business School professor Clayton Christensen says that half are bound for bankruptcy in the next few decades.

Christensen is known for coining the theory of disruptive innovation in his 1997 book, "The Innovator's Dilemma." Since then, he has applied his theory of disruption to a wide range of industries, including education.

In his recent book, "The Innovative University," Christensen and co-author Henry Eyring analyze the future of traditional universities, and conclude that online education will become a more cost-effective way for students to receive an education, effectively undermining the business models of traditional institutions and running them out of business.

What percentage of their graduates will be bankrupt?


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by c0lo on Wednesday September 05 2018, @12:07PM (21 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 05 2018, @12:07PM (#730700) Journal

    They produce and reinforce views as far outside mainstream American thinking as closed militia compounds or cults do.

    "mainstream American thinking" - ha! I don't know if you realize there's no such a thing, the mainstream American DOES NOT THINK. he just reacts
    He's dreaming he's an exceptional billionaire albeit temporary embarrassed, believes that hard work is all that's needed to succeed, waste a big amount of neuron-time being outraged by what Rep/Dem/others do or speak and all the remaining time watching 'ctelectual super-heroes movies.
    Some of them even waste time posting on S/N (instead of, e.g., going fishing)

    Do you really believe those are signs of the superior neurological activity usually denoted as "thinking"?

    (large grin)

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  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday September 05 2018, @12:22PM (10 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday September 05 2018, @12:22PM (#730705) Homepage Journal

    You're absolutely correct. You should fish more.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Wednesday September 05 2018, @12:31PM (9 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 05 2018, @12:31PM (#730708) Journal

      End of winter. Not the best season for fishing in Melbourne. Commenting on S/N will have to do for now. (grin)

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      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday September 05 2018, @12:56PM (8 children)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday September 05 2018, @12:56PM (#730729) Homepage Journal

        Fish still bite in the winter (just a bit slower) and you don't have to worry about it getting too hot to even breathe. Mind you, you may need a boat to get to the deeper waters where they hang out when it's cold.

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        • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday September 05 2018, @03:44PM (7 children)

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 05 2018, @03:44PM (#730783) Journal

          Nice try, TMB. Melbourne has an unpleasant weather at its best.
          Winter time, the wind is most likely killing you. Literally, if in a boat.

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          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday September 05 2018, @04:27PM (6 children)

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday September 05 2018, @04:27PM (#730799) Homepage Journal

            Nope, if them crazy-ass yankees can cut holes in foot thick ice to fish, you can put warmer clothes on.

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            • (Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Wednesday September 05 2018, @10:47PM (5 children)

              by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 05 2018, @10:47PM (#731001) Journal

              Nope, if them crazy-ass yankees can cut holes in foot thick ice to fish, you can put warmer clothes on.

              that TMB? Mainstream yankee! (grin)

              Mate, in Melbourne you're not gonna see frozen waterways.
              The wind will literally kill you by the swells it creates on water. Occasionally, news here announce 1-2 Darwin award winners after the dingy they were in capsized or was pushed some tens of km offshore.

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              • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 06 2018, @12:23AM (4 children)

                by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday September 06 2018, @12:23AM (#731040) Homepage Journal

                Right. I forget you lot don't really have any water to speak of that comes without waves.

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                • (Score: 3, Touché) by c0lo on Thursday September 06 2018, @01:21AM (3 children)

                  by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday September 06 2018, @01:21AM (#731073) Journal

                  don't really have any water to speak of that comes without waves.

                  Technically, you can have it: just fill the bathtub (and, to avoid swells, make sure yo mamma stays away from it). Granted, no fish will bite under these circumstances, but you can still experience the 'wait for the bite' feeling.
                  To my taste, tho', posting shit on S/N is a more rewarding experience than fishing in the bathtub - I get infinitely more bites here.

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                  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 06 2018, @01:49AM (2 children)

                    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday September 06 2018, @01:49AM (#731086) Homepage Journal

                    Wait, you can't drive under two hours to Emerald Lake or Lake Corangamite? Or, you know, fish in the Yarra or one of the two bays you have handy? I don't think you're trying very hard.

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                    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday September 06 2018, @02:42AM (1 child)

                      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday September 06 2018, @02:42AM (#731108) Journal

                      Lake Corangamite is about 1 hour drive from where I live. Except it's a hypersaline endorheic lake [wikipedia.org] - the mud there literally reeks and the fish .. wikipedia say there should be some but I doubt it.

                      For the Emerald Lake (actually Lake Treganowan - the other one is a water reservoir - deep, former tree trunks still standing on the bottom after flooding the valey) - I guess I could.
                      But it's about 4 hours drive from where I live, need to cross the city to get to the other side.
                      Unless I plan to spend the night somewhere there, it becomes a 8 hours driving experience. Winter time, that's the entire daylight time you have during the day.

                      There are places that offers organized recreational fishing in ponds they populated with trout (small fish-farming operations), but... naah... can't say I enjoy fishing enough to do it winter time.

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                      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 06 2018, @11:26AM

                        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday September 06 2018, @11:26AM (#731250) Homepage Journal

                        Man, I hate me some cold too but there's a lot to be said for either having the morning entirely to yourself or having the company of a very few other crazy bastards who likely have some quite interesting lies to tell. Bundle up good enough and take plenty of coffee and it's quite pleasant and relaxing. Actually catching anything is just kind of a bonus.

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  • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Wednesday September 05 2018, @02:33PM (8 children)

    by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday September 05 2018, @02:33PM (#730765)

    relevant XKCD [xkcd.com]

    Why are you limiting it to Americans? Lots of people from other countries are fairly mindless a lot of the time. Heck, you might be one of them: A lot of people have no original thoughts prior to getting to work, for instance.

    About the only aspect that might be uniquely American is the relatively large religion industry that carries a strong anti-intellectual streak and thus actively wants its people to avoid thinking.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Wednesday September 05 2018, @03:47PM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 05 2018, @03:47PM (#730784) Journal

      Why are you limiting it to Americans?

      Am I? I just pointed the contradiction in terms in the given context.

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    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 05 2018, @05:21PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 05 2018, @05:21PM (#730818)

      About the only aspect that might be uniquely American is the relatively large religion industry

      Allow me to introduce you to the entire middle east.

      The barely still functioning religion "industry" in the US pales in comparison to the power of the religious zealots in other parts of the world.

      I'm going to assume that you're a Democrat and you actually think that religion still has some sort of power, and that this somehow explains everything about the Republicans.
      No.
      Just like the labor movement is essentially dead on the left, the religious are also pretty much finished as well, or will be in 30 years or so.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by i286NiNJA on Wednesday September 05 2018, @06:14PM

        by i286NiNJA (2768) on Wednesday September 05 2018, @06:14PM (#730870)

        Seems to me they managed to elect Bush jr twice not too long ago plus they have one of their own as vice president.
        We may even see a right wing religious nutball in the whitehouse before long. Then we'll see them lose their embarrassment and return to the spotlight. Especially as the left gets tired of it's own moral authoritarianism.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by jmorris on Wednesday September 05 2018, @06:39PM (4 children)

      by jmorris (4844) on Wednesday September 05 2018, @06:39PM (#730888)

      Open your mind and see the full horror. The modern American (and now Western) university IS a religious institution. They are in fact functioning mostly as religious seminaries. And they are violently anti-intellectual because Cultural Marxism is not a religion capable of withstanding any reflection or criticism. Critical Theory is designed only to destroy, not create.

      The older Christian Western Civilization it has now replaced was capable of sustaining The Enlightenment, Progressivism can't sustain a debate on bathrooms without resorting to violence to end the debate.

      • (Score: 5, Informative) by Thexalon on Wednesday September 05 2018, @08:37PM (3 children)

        by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday September 05 2018, @08:37PM (#730942)

        Have you attended university recently, out of curiosity? Because while your description perfectly matches right-wing characterizations of what universities are like, that doesn't match my experience of attending one, nor my experience working for a different one. Oh, and my alma mater is sometimes cited as the ur example of a misguided liberal institution controlled by anti-intellectual cultural marxists or what have you.

        For what it's worth, my alma mater, which again is often the target of this kind of criticism:
        - Had active fairly conservative student organizations like Young Republicans and an evangelical Christian group who ran Sunday morning services. These groups had significant membership.
        - Had avowed conservatives on the faculty.
        - Regularly had satires of liberalism published in the student papers. For example, a buddy of mine wrote a comic strip for a while called "My So-Called Left" that was specifically poking at the campus socialist groups.
        - Also had regular satires of liberalism just pop up randomly on campus. For instance, one group advertised a talk on "The Revolutionary Ideas of Karl Marx". The next day, another set of posters popped up looking almost identical but advertising a talk on "The Revolutionary Ideas of Ronald Reagan".
        - The economics course I took taught Mankiw, Friedman, and Keynes, not Marx or Stiglitz or Galbraith. I realize that you probably find those guys still too liberal, because they aren't von Mises, Hayek, or Fama, but it's still a long way from Marxism.
        - The English course I took taught, among other mostly-long-dead authors, Heinlein.
        - As far as sustained debates on bathrooms, lots of bathrooms were co-ed, because nobody cared enough to do sex-segregated bathrooms. The actual raging debate at the time had to do with trying to force the school into allowing co-ed dorm rooms for people who wanted to do that.
        - Was regularly visited by avowed conservatives like Arthur Laffer. They were able to speak without incident beyond some questions they couldn't answer very well. The speaker that got the harshest reception was part of the Clinton administration.
        - I never once observed a faculty member attempt to suppress conservative ideas if they were well-supported and well-argued and relevant.
        - We were reasonably well-behaved towards protesters, including a conservative preacher telling us we were all fornicators doomed to hell, and a visit by the Westboro Baptist Church.

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        • (Score: 3, Informative) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday September 05 2018, @09:26PM

          by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Wednesday September 05 2018, @09:26PM (#730964)

          I'm not sure why you would bother.

          jmorris has a fixed and very limited view of the world, as his right-wing talking point comments show.

          He uses terms like "Cultural Marxism" and is trying to pretend that Christianity was a supporter of the Enlightenment, instead of the oppressors they really were.

          He also wrote:

          Progressivism can't sustain a debate on bathrooms without resorting to violence to end the debate.

          as if it isn't the weirdo right-wing Christians in some parts of the US that are obsessed by which bathrooms people use.

          At least you provided some context and a few real world examples to back your point up, so thanks.

        • (Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Wednesday September 05 2018, @09:34PM

          by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Wednesday September 05 2018, @09:34PM (#730968) Journal

          UCB?

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        • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Thursday September 06 2018, @03:12AM

          by Reziac (2489) on Thursday September 06 2018, @03:12AM (#731127) Homepage

          Can't offhand find the article I wanted (by Jonathan Haidt, IIRC) but this one skims over the same topic:

          https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/1/liberal-majority-on-campus-yes-were-biased/ [washingtontimes.com]

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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by DannyB on Wednesday September 05 2018, @05:39PM

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 05 2018, @05:39PM (#730836) Journal

    "mainstream American thinking" - ha! I don't know if you realize there's no such a thing

    There is. It is whatever the TV tells you to think.

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