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In our increasingly politicized world, it has become popular to chant "all software is political." Software builds the systems that free or constrain us, the thinking goes, and so we should withhold it from bad people. This is the thinking that has led Microsoft employees and others to decry contracts tech companies have with ICE (US Department of Homeland Security Immigration and Customs Enforcement), insisting that their software only be sold to people they like.
[...] Over the years we as an open source community have experimented with all sorts of stupid ideas, like efforts to block anyone from using code for commercial purposes unless they pay. Each time, we've realized that as good a goal as it is for developers to get paid, for example, the destruction caused by closing off the code to uses we don't like ends up ruining the foundations upon which open source rests.
This is dramatically more important, however, when it comes to attempts to politicize open source software.
As developer Chris Cordle stated, "Nobody wins" and the "whole idea [undergirding open source] dies" ... "if an author arbitrarily picks and chooses who can and can't use it based on whoever Twittersphere is mad at this week." It doesn't matter if there is tremendous cause for that anger. Open source dies when it becomes politicized.
Source: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-politicizing-open-source-is-a-terrible-idea/
(Score: 4, Insightful) by jmorris on Wednesday September 12 2018, @04:45PM (21 children)
Problem is the SJWs don't care anymore. They control all the commanding heights of the culture (with the exception of the Presidency, which is what has driven them mad) including the media, the universities and for all intents and purposes the entire tech industry and the vast majority of the Fortune 500 in general now. They think it is time to wield that power to destroy their enemies once and for all in a Final Solution.
The incident that triggered this debate ended badly for the freak who changed the license, but they won't stop trying and eventually they will succeed, exactly like they spent the last year or two mandating a CoC on every open source project to build a base of power to allow these sort of actions. Although again in this case that too backfired as the CoC was used to eject the SJW. The enemy is deep inside the gates now and quickly growing in number. Best to start quietly archiving important software to ride out the Crazy Years.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 12 2018, @05:27PM (16 children)
You are nuts. Unhinged from reality. Gone round the bend. Back to gabba or whatever with you, begone beast!
(Score: 5, Funny) by aristarchus on Wednesday September 12 2018, @07:59PM (5 children)
We should prey for jmorris. He deserves our sympathy, not scorn and revilement. Undoubtedly he is possessed by daemons most foul, probably proprietary.
(Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Wednesday September 12 2018, @10:21PM (2 children)
I thought enough people were already trying to prey on jmorris? He just seems to be too nimble for the attempted predator most of the time.
Ok, I'll pray for him.... 'Lord we give thanks for the food which we are about to receive......'
This sig for rent.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday September 13 2018, @12:08AM (1 child)
Not just food, OK?
https://militaryphilosopher.blogspot.com/2007/11/for-what-we-are-about-to-receive.html [blogspot.com]
"For what we are about to receive..." might include all manner of things.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 13 2018, @05:22AM
Divine justice? Swamp drainage? They all result in less of jmorris soooo fine by me!
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by Captival on Thursday September 13 2018, @04:13AM (1 child)
jmorris actually believes that politicization of software by rabid Liberal ideologues is a bad thing? He must be destroyed for his own good. Let's call him a Nazi a lot to show him how superior are, then some congratulatory back patting for ourselves because we're so righteous. Meanwhile, we'll send some Antifa goons over to destroy his property and send him a few death threats. That'll teach him for being politically neutral.
(Score: 2, Funny) by aristarchus on Thursday September 13 2018, @04:23AM
Now, now, Captival, UID 6(8)66, if that is your real name, no one is suggesting violence toward our fellow Soylentil, jmorris. We love him, so much, indeed, that we are willing to do an intervention in situations like this, where his demons get the better of him. But you, UID 6(8)66, you are not fooling anyone! Number of the Beast? Mephistopheles? Is that you, oh dark one that hides in the cover of libertarian conservatism? Let our Soylentil go! Release your hold on jmorris! Or we will put in a rider on all our software that prohibits its use by any denizen of Hades. Now back were you came from, hellish troll and very bad one at that.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday September 12 2018, @11:55PM (9 children)
Actually, jmorris is not unhinged. He and I disagree sometimes, but he does have a pretty clear view of reality. It is the muppets like you who are being led around by some pied piper, calling itself "progressive". Note the lack of a gender specific pronoun.
Do you SERIOUSLY believe that if/when that piper attains power, it will share that power with people like you?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Thursday September 13 2018, @04:27AM (8 children)
Says the most unhinged member of SN? Seriously? This is just like David Duke swearing up and down (and probably up and down again, it's an alt-right thing, ask Milo) that Richard Spencer is not a racist. Job well done, Runaway! How is it possible for you to be so obtuse? Really, I would like to know. Such profound ignorance does not happen without intent.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday September 13 2018, @08:57AM (7 children)
Ari, whose doors were hung using strips of cowhide in ancient Greece, feels himself competent to speak about unhinging? Perhaps you would care to revisit AthanasiusKircher's farewell thread again. You are mentioned by name there. Aristarchus' toxicity is legendary!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Thursday September 13 2018, @09:15AM (6 children)
Jealous, Runaway? You are the most toxic, because you have the least to say, being an uneducated American, which if it were not so redundant would be embarrassing. You contribute nothing but vitriol and bile, venom and idiocy, in all your posts. We learn nothing from you, because you have nothing to share, but you are blissfully unaware of that fact. Go back to watching Fox News, and pining for the days when a Clinton was your Governor, or the two times a Clinton was your first Lady. And you best show proper respect, or we will give you the Soylentil equivalent of a Captain's Mast, you scallywag!
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday September 13 2018, @09:40AM (2 children)
Did you say vitriol, bile, venom, and idiocy? Then, you post your hatred of Americans, right here in plain sight, for all to see.
Kinda funny - over time you have claimed to be American, Greek, black, white, and a number of other things. Why, you even claim to be educated!! Nobody knows who or what this Aristarchus personna really is, aside from hateful.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by aiwarrior on Thursday September 13 2018, @12:20PM (1 child)
Aristarchus I disagree with Runaway1956 but you are not really bringing any righteousness by calling him uneducated and all sorts of insults. You are in the end, your own worse enemy of your ideas.
jrmorris is known for his opinions. They are not popular around here, and this is the actual good meaningful result here. Rejoyce in that. You starting insults is more or less counter to the point.
@Runaway, jmorris ideas are not the most consistent thing I have read set in ASCII. Supporting him may taint the often good no non-sense attitude that you show which might give you credibility. Unless the no-nonsense attitude has another meaning.
People are irrelevant, they should be free to be what they want. Ideas are what you must judge. This is the actual problem of nowadays political climate. We attack the messengers instead of the messages. This is what is poisonous.
Social orthodoxy like the kind propagated by SJW or other populace moralists, is fascism. Pure and simple!
Disliking a person because he is black or purple or brownish is racism. Pure and simple
A white SJW is as good an idiot as the Goebles loving people, as Serena Williams calling an umpire referee decision sexist (lol wtf?). The common link is the ideas as messages they propagate: They are easily deconstructed.
If people and actual black people would follow Martin Luther King's motto: Judge not by color of their skin but by the content of their character, a lot of bullshit would stop.
1st proposal: If people do not want to volunteer for that open source project, that is fine. They can even maintain their own branch, I do with Open embedded.
2nd proposal: If people do not want businesses to sell that or to that one, do not work there. You are free and (ohh yeah responsible).
3rd proposal: If you do not want businesses to undertake certain lines of work, convince your fellow citizens of it's wrongness and how you can overcome the hardship that may create.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday September 13 2018, @10:08PM
Thank you, Sir.
Yeah, I realize that supporting some people - uhhh - "looks bad" shall we say. JMorris? Sometimes he goes overboard, and often enough, overstates his case. That's the biggest reason I don't support him more than I do. But, even so, his brand of unpopular is more palatable most of the time, than the popular nonsense thrown around.
Maybe I need to concentrate more on stating my own opinion, and avoid "taking sides", even when one side is obviously so far out in left field as to be out of the ball park. I mean - it's easier to identify with the guy who is still in the ball park, than to identify with the crowd at the custard stand, over in the next town.
MLK. The man would roll over in his grave if he were to hear about BLM and Antifa. I hope no one goes by the grave yard to tell him about current events.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday September 13 2018, @10:11PM (2 children)
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=27562&page=1&cid=734182#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
Wanted to make sure you saw that. It seems an objective opinion, and one not swaddled in partisan bullshit.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Thursday September 13 2018, @11:57PM (1 child)
Yes, I saw it, you vomituous mass of partisan hackery! Did you even read it? You are being lead to far more radical ideas that you actually hold. This is exactly how Trump is leading American to Southern stupidity, racism, and ultimately fascism. It will all be your fault, Runaway.
Now go ahead, complain some more that aristarchus is being mean to you!
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday September 14 2018, @12:24AM
Mean to me? Somehow, I missed that bit of data. The real problem here is that you're posting stupidly vile insults, without any substance at all. Tell me - have you fallen and bumped your head in the past couple of years? Think hard - I can't exactly specify a time at which you "lost it", but apparently, sometime before Hillary's debacle. Maybe you should see your physician? A CAT scan or some such seems to be in order. If you can recover to the point that you can post semi-intelligent, rational insults, we will both enjoy Soylent more.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 12 2018, @07:59PM (3 children)
define CoC please
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 12 2018, @09:03PM (1 child)
CoC, Code of Conduct : 1. A coherent list of rules designed to provide an open, caring and non-toxic environment where lack of actual ability doesn't matter, as long as you are not a SWM*. 2. A document designed to give control of a project to SJW's so that you aspies can't hurt our feels anymore.
*SWM : Straight white male. For the purposes of SJW's, sufficient physical disability may also qualify as bent.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 12 2018, @09:48PM
As a SWM I'm here to tell you that you are suffering from a persecution complex. You are either a reactionary dumbass or an asshole who thinks people don't like you because you are a SWM.
I'm sure there are some stupid abuses that have happened, but hey that is life. Shall we label all conservatives "Nazis" just because there are some real Nazi Conservatives? I'm sure you have the urge to say "yeah, that is exactly what you libruhls cucked SJWs do!" at which point I refer you back to the first paragraph where you must decide whether you are a dumbass or an asshole.
Personally I place my bet on all the CoC haters being assholes who are used to getting away with it over the internet and are upset that anyone should dare require civility to be a part of their project. AKA: whiny little man childs.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday September 13 2018, @12:10AM
One of a pair of very rich brothers, or a former mayor of New York, or possibly a tubular appendage used to impregnate female members of the species.