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posted by martyb on Thursday September 13 2018, @01:58AM   Printer-friendly
from the please-stop-"helping" dept.

Submitted via IRC for TheMightyBuzzard

Google Chrome developers advised they would wait until Fall or Spring to disclose how they would "kill" URLs, but it appears the endeavor has already begun: users have found that the latest build, Chrome 69, hides the "WWW" and "M" subdomains in the address bar. Bleeping Computer has instructions on how to restore what Google insists is "trivial."

Source: https://www.hardocp.com/news/2018/09/09/google_slammed_for_chrome_change_that_strips_out_www_from_domains/


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by sjames on Thursday September 13 2018, @02:39AM (20 children)

    by sjames (2882) on Thursday September 13 2018, @02:39AM (#733969) Journal

    That worked out so well when MS decided the extension was just too confusing and cluttery. Then wondered why people clicked on invoice.doc.exe in their email.

    Needlessly hiding information is rarely a good move.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Absolutely.Geek on Thursday September 13 2018, @02:48AM (1 child)

    by Absolutely.Geek (5328) on Thursday September 13 2018, @02:48AM (#733976)

    Yep first thing I do on a new MS OS is to turn on all the useful things so I know what the files are.

    Mainly don't have to do that these days as when I spin up a new VM it is from a base that is pre-configured to be correct. Run Linux as the base OS so extensions are on by default.

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    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday September 14 2018, @11:50AM

      by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Friday September 14 2018, @11:50AM (#734789) Homepage
      I'm showing my age, but to me, unixalikes don't even have (the concept of) "extensions". A nonempty sequence of non-nil and non-"/" characters, preferably not including those in $LFS is a filename to me, that's it, it doesn't have separate parts to it. Alas windows weenies have brought their unnecessary artifices in and sullied my once-pure OS. They brought filenames containing characters from $LFS with them too, the bastards.
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 13 2018, @02:50AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 13 2018, @02:50AM (#733977)

    Its not heedlessly hiding anything, its like a tracheotomy for some sites where the designers don't follow good practices. Removing these characters allows the reader just enough extra whitespace to take a breath.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Arik on Thursday September 13 2018, @05:19AM (3 children)

      by Arik (4543) on Thursday September 13 2018, @05:19AM (#734032) Journal
      "Its not heedlessly hiding anything, its like a tracheotomy for some sites where the designers don't follow good practices. Removing these characters allows the reader just enough extra whitespace to take a breath."

      Even taken in this light, it's still dumb. Don't hide that shit from the users, if anything make it more prominent. User complaints are the only thing that will make those 'developers' do anything right anyway.
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      If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 13 2018, @07:55PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 13 2018, @07:55PM (#734421)
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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @06:54AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @06:54AM (#734723)

          Bet you can't keep it up [soylentnews.org] as long as Arik has.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 15 2018, @10:36AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 15 2018, @10:36AM (#735251)

            Arik should get a boyfriend or something

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 13 2018, @11:32AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 13 2018, @11:32AM (#734152)

      This is the argument used to hide everything after ? in the url
      Users don't need to see that crap, right

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 13 2018, @12:27PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 13 2018, @12:27PM (#734186)

      What breath? Fucking aliens and their white light eating habits.

    • (Score: 2) by sjames on Friday September 14 2018, @01:02AM

      by sjames (2882) on Friday September 14 2018, @01:02AM (#734606) Journal

      Sure it is. For example, sometimes the "mobile" site just isn't working right. It's good that I can see that I am on m.domain.tld and remove the 'm.' to get to a working site. Sometimes a site confuses itself and it's helpful to delete the CGI parameters that seem to be causing the problem, leaving others in place.

      How is that supposed to work when the browser hides it all from me? If anything, having all of that swept under the rug means developers will feel free to be less consistent and even to include information in the URL that shouldn't be exposed at all.

  • (Score: 3, Touché) by nobu_the_bard on Thursday September 13 2018, @02:29PM (9 children)

    by nobu_the_bard (6373) on Thursday September 13 2018, @02:29PM (#734250)

    How about how they hide email addresses from local users when you're using Outlook connected to Exchange?

    If you're using Outlook with Exchange and your buddy Billy Gates in the same company emails you, it just shows "From: Billy Gates" instead of "From: Billy Gates " or "From: Billy Gates "

    But if a bad guy formats a phishing mail to you like so:
    From: Billy Gates,

    It'll ALSO display as "From: Billy Gates" because the comma that's not enclosed in quote marks makes it look like a second address, and Outlook will only display the first address in a From field, no matter how obviously absurd it is.

    I could go on all day about Outlook and Exchange's fun little traits like this.

    • (Score: 2) by nobu_the_bard on Thursday September 13 2018, @02:34PM (8 children)

      by nobu_the_bard (6373) on Thursday September 13 2018, @02:34PM (#734255)

      That's what I get for not previewing. Oh well.

      • (Score: 2) by Marand on Thursday September 13 2018, @04:45PM (6 children)

        by Marand (1081) on Thursday September 13 2018, @04:45PM (#734323) Journal

        It's okay, the comment still works. When reading it I couldn't decide if you wrote email addresses in < and > that got eaten, or if you were making a point by deliberately writing the same from field each time to show the absurdity of hiding useful information.

        • (Score: 2) by nobu_the_bard on Thursday September 13 2018, @06:07PM (5 children)

          by nobu_the_bard (6373) on Thursday September 13 2018, @06:07PM (#734365)

          I wrote the addresses in brackets and they got eaten, yeah. I've been looking at raw text so much I forgot this was a WYSIWYG editor that would think they were HTML.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 13 2018, @06:34PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 13 2018, @06:34PM (#734383)

            that's the opposite of wysiwyg

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 16 2018, @12:29PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 16 2018, @12:29PM (#735630)

              that's the reality of wysiwyg editors

          • (Score: 2) by Arik on Friday September 14 2018, @01:48AM (1 child)

            by Arik (4543) on Friday September 14 2018, @01:48AM (#734641) Journal
            This is just one of the reasons I set my default to code.

            But were it the only one, it would be sufficient.
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            If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
            • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @06:58AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @06:58AM (#734724)

              <TT> is cruise control for troll.

          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday September 14 2018, @08:09PM

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Friday September 14 2018, @08:09PM (#735026) Homepage Journal

            It's not WYSIWYG. It's WYSIWTF. Too many people are used to it to make serious changes though.

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      • (Score: 2) by sjames on Thursday September 13 2018, @05:47PM

        by sjames (2882) on Thursday September 13 2018, @05:47PM (#734351) Journal

        Somehow, it all works out anyway since by becoming less clear by losing the information provided by the > and <, the point is again illustrated.