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posted by martyb on Friday September 21 2018, @08:51AM   Printer-friendly
from the who-is-this-for-contractors-or-trustafarians dept.

Motortrend has some pics of cargo version of the ID Buzz concept,
https://www.motortrend.com/news/volkswagen-d-buzz-cargo-previews-future-commercial-vehicles/ If I were a contractor or had a repair company, an electric van to lug my tools and parts around would be nice. But unless VW has located a secret source of cheap lithium batteries, the first cost of this version will be much higher than an equivalent ICE-powered commercial van. Will contractors or service companies buy these instead of, for example, a Ford Transit?

It's looking at a different market sector than Tesla where the first adopters had money for a luxury car. Maybe the customers will be rich kids looking for a cool way to get their surf boards to the beach?

Volkswagen reimagined the Microbus when it introduced the I.D. Buzz concept in early 2017. This all-electric remake seats up to eight people in a living-room style seating environment. Now, the automaker is revealing a cargo version designed for commercial use.

Like the passenger version, the I.D. Buzz Cargo concept sits on the flexible MEB platform for electric vehicles. This architecture can accommodate batteries with ranges of around 205 miles to more than 310 miles on the European scale. While the I.D. Buzz passenger van will enter production in 2022, the cargo model could launch as early as 2021, the automaker says. Eventually, the model will support autonomous driving and allow drivers to get more work done while on the road.

The cargo version deviates from the Buzz passenger concept with a new solar roof that can add about 9 miles of range per day. It also receives wide-opening rear wing doors that help workers load and unload the van. A workbench can fold out when the wing doors are opened. Volkswagen also redesigned the rear bumper for the cargo version.

Acting as a mobile workspace, the I.D. Buzz Cargo features shelves fitted with sensors and other technologies that make it possible for the driver to track all items on board. While the vehicle operates in autonomous mode, drivers can process orders, perform stock checks, or take care of other business matters via the on-board computer.

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+ Nine miles/day solar charging seems optimistic to me, but I didn't run any numbers, maybe this is for use in Ecuador? Only works if it's parked in reasonable light, which often doesn't exist in urban "canyons" between tall buildings (or in parking garages). But I live in the 'burbs and would park it outside--9 miles/day would often meet my personal needs (I don't go far to shop, and usually work from home).

+ Selling it as "autonomous ready" sounds like a waste of money, because I don't think AV (Autonomous Vehicle) use will cover more than some very small city areas in the next few years. I got snookered into buying a 3D TV and I think we've watched two 3D movies in the 8(?) years we've had it--I'm now leery of future-proofing my technology purchases.


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  • (Score: 2) by VLM on Friday September 21 2018, @04:53PM

    by VLM (445) on Friday September 21 2018, @04:53PM (#738224)

    But unless VW has located a secret source of cheap lithium batteries, the first cost of this version will be much higher than an equivalent ICE-powered commercial van. Will contractors or service companies buy these instead of, for example, a Ford Transit?

    Perhaps they shouldn't bother? Just use small good batteries?

    Range anxiety is popularized as an anti-EV thing for consumers, OMG how will I spend my entire vacation driving for 16 hours per day without a single break, because thats the only way to enjoy a vacation?

    But for "Ford Transit Buyers" if their franchise limits or municipal business license limit where they can work to the extent that they can't drive "205 to 310 miles" away from home, then it doesn't matter.

    Consider the electrician who did the wiring for my gas hot water heater (lots of electronics now compared to 50 years ago..). His commute to my house was a stunning half mile, which doesn't require $50K worth of lithium batteries; a single low speed golf cart battery would be quite sufficient.

    Likewise I'm looking to hire a bonded arborist to take down a diseased pine near my neighbor's house, leading contender is based 4 miles away in the next town.

    The HVAC guy who installed my furnace and aircond is based in the center of my suburban city, figure less than 10 miles round trip for a days work at worst case even if he has to run by a warehouse or two to get some parts.

    The HQ of the company that installed my house roof is about 6 miles away, so figure 12 miles round trip per day range, although of course there's supplies to gather and coffee to fetch, but a relatively unambitious lead-acid battery would be quite sufficient.

    I'm sure there's plenty of jobs out there where some poor bastard works 12 hour days and drives 310 miles between endless multiple sites, which works out to an average speed of 50 MPH if he spends half his time driving and half working, and most city streets around here are not rated to more than 35, so ... Figure this would not work for a porta-potty servicing truck dude. Or it wouldn't work for a welding gas cylinder delivery truck, probably. But for "most" skilled tradesmen not working in extreme rural environments, an EV work truck sounds like a reasonable solution.

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