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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday September 25 2018, @06:11PM   Printer-friendly
from the subtle-influences dept.

Days after the Trump administration instituted a controversial travel ban in January 2017, Google employees discussed ways they might be able to tweak the company's search-related functions to show users how to contribute to pro-immigration organizations and contact lawmakers and government agencies, according to internal company emails.

The email traffic, reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, shows that employees proposed ways to "leverage" search functions and take steps to counter what they considered to be "islamophobic, algorithmically biased results from search terms 'Islam', 'Muslim', 'Iran', etc." and "prejudiced, algorithmically biased search results from search terms 'Mexico', 'Hispanic', 'Latino', etc."

The email chain, while sprinkled with cautionary notes about engaging in political activity, suggests employees considered ways to harness the company's vast influence on the internet in response to the travel ban. Google said none of the ideas discussed were implemented.

"These emails were just a brainstorm of ideas, none of which were ever implemented," a company spokeswoman said in a statement. "Google has never manipulated its search results or modified any of its products to promote a particular political ideology—not in the current campaign season, not during the 2016 election, and not in the aftermath of President Trump's executive order on immigration. Our processes and policies would not have allowed for any manipulation of search results to promote political ideologies."

wsj.com/articles/google-workers-discussed-tweaking-search-function-to-counter-travel-ban-1537488472


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  • (Score: 5, Touché) by ikanreed on Tuesday September 25 2018, @06:40PM (20 children)

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 25 2018, @06:40PM (#739806) Journal

    Because it's very important for conservatives to feel constantly oppressed even as they control all the levers of power.

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  • (Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday September 25 2018, @06:55PM (7 children)

    by VLM (445) on Tuesday September 25 2018, @06:55PM (#739815)
    • (Score: 5, Informative) by ikanreed on Tuesday September 25 2018, @07:18PM (5 children)

      by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 25 2018, @07:18PM (#739823) Journal

      Bowing to organized pressure by leftists isn't exactly captialism at work; those sites have been happy to let Jones continue to wildly violate their ToS for years, until an organized campaign brought attention to his specific misbehaviors.

      That's definitely the spin left-leaning people put on it, though: "oh its your own free market values in action", and I think they're full of shit when they say that.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @08:38PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @08:38PM (#739857)

        They are not fullof of shit. The "market" is made up people. Market forces are putting pressure on companies, said companies modify their behavior to maximize market value.

        Previous bad behavior has always been excused by saying companies can do what they want and it is their job to maximize profits. Same thing here, just now instead of hurting employees or the environment "the market" is hurting the conservative nutjobs.

        I am not surprised that conservatives are now crying, i guess with them it is Freedom of Speech for me but not for thee.

        I am totally fine with anti monopoly actions for tech, the future will soon have search engines of all sorts, like the various business directories, real estate magazines, etc.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 26 2018, @05:32AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 26 2018, @05:32AM (#740041)

          Yeah so that makes the lefties actually from the right-wing, right? It is like right-wing lunatics are now claiming to be leftists. Is it not??

          Pick a fucking side of an argument. But it is simply better to jump on the side of power, isn't it?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @10:07PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @10:07PM (#739892)

        > leftists isn't exactly captialism at work;
        Could it be the work of a true scotsman?
        Capitalism is an economic theory, just exactly how sterile do you need the world before the invisible unimpeded hand of god suddenly starts acting in the best interests of humanity?
        So I'll start the list
        1. Criminalize activism against corporate interests
        2. Eliminate all welfare
        3. End public education

        I'll let you continue here and I'll convert it to a YAML settings file for reality and have a priest deliver it to god by the end of sprint ok?

        • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @10:47PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @10:47PM (#739911)

          Naah bro, we just need anarcho-capitalism, a series of contracts, and the infinite contract-enforcing turtles.

          Mr. Vim has assured me that if those 3 things instantly result, it will be for the best.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Wednesday September 26 2018, @12:15AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 26 2018, @12:15AM (#739949) Journal

        Bowing to organized pressure by leftists isn't exactly captialism at work;

        What is that makes you think that capitalism and freedom of speech are the same thing?

        If the company sees the potential to greater losses if they continue to platform for a minority, there's nothing in the "principles of capitalism" to stop the company jettisoning the minority.

        --
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday September 25 2018, @08:55PM

      by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Tuesday September 25 2018, @08:55PM (#739866) Homepage
      And why would google/linkedin/instagram care about that?
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHgUN_95UAw
      --
      Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Tuesday September 25 2018, @07:56PM (10 children)

    by hemocyanin (186) on Tuesday September 25 2018, @07:56PM (#739844) Journal

    Which conservatives? The ones who call themselves Republicans or the ones who call themselves Democrats?

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @08:03PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @08:03PM (#739846)

      The ones who call themselves Republicans or the ones who call themselves Democrats?

      Yes.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 26 2018, @05:34AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 26 2018, @05:34AM (#740042)

        reddit's leaking

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by RandomFactor on Tuesday September 25 2018, @09:42PM (6 children)

      by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 25 2018, @09:42PM (#739882) Journal

      While many Republicans and occassionally Democrats may call themselves conservatives, reality is that the number of conservatives in either party is significantly lower.

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      В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday September 26 2018, @12:20AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 26 2018, @12:20AM (#739951) Journal

        You bloody progressive you!
        Putting a positive spin on the things, pushing your own agenda and spreading a bias?

        (VERY LARGE GRIN)

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        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
      • (Score: 2, Disagree) by hemocyanin on Wednesday September 26 2018, @01:11AM (4 children)

        by hemocyanin (186) on Wednesday September 26 2018, @01:11AM (#739972) Journal

        The parties are basically indistinguishable -- both are war like, both are spendthrifts, neither really cares about civil liberties or average people, etc. etc. The venn diagram of Republicans vs. Democrats is so close to being a circle, you need lab quality instruments to see where they diverge.

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by bob_super on Wednesday September 26 2018, @01:33AM (3 children)

          by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday September 26 2018, @01:33AM (#739987)

          I used to let those slide, but I'm pretty sure paying attention for the last 4 years would show some significant differences in many places which matter, starting with Net Neutrality and business-worship stance, on top of the expected social issues.
          Or maybe you need your lab instruments to find your evidently shrunk capacity to observe to drift of both parties to the right, especially the one that started pretty far right.

          • (Score: 3, Informative) by hemocyanin on Wednesday September 26 2018, @02:54AM (2 children)

            by hemocyanin (186) on Wednesday September 26 2018, @02:54AM (#740015) Journal

            Nobody seemed to be able to compare the GWB to Obama terms, you know where Obama expanded all the wars, catfood commission (thank goodness the GOP wouldn't work with him), making 82% of the Bush tax cuts permanent, opposing a ban on cluster bombs, due process free execution based on secret legal memos to one-up Bush's Gitmo, cutting safety requirements for offshore rigs in the Gulf of Mexico just before one blew up, bailing out banksters .... yeah, Democrats rock. /sarc

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 26 2018, @01:12PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 26 2018, @01:12PM (#740147)

              It's called *politics* and *compromise* and why *ELECTIONS FUCKING MATTER*.

              Since for most of the time Democrats were arguing how to best have Obamacare implemented, they really did fuck-all next, assuming that Republicans are going to remain sane. That assumption was incorrect. What happens is an example of why compromise with Republicans is a one way street these days.

              • (Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Wednesday September 26 2018, @02:21PM

                by hemocyanin (186) on Wednesday September 26 2018, @02:21PM (#740193) Journal

                The fact that Democrats' major sense of pride comes from implementing Nixon's healthcare plan says a lot.

    • (Score: 2) by mobydisk on Wednesday September 26 2018, @03:12PM

      by mobydisk (5472) on Wednesday September 26 2018, @03:12PM (#740232)

      They must be referring to the conservatives who voted for a billionaire playboy with no religious faith.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @09:00PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @09:00PM (#739868)

    Eich would not agree with you. Is there an Eich equivalent for the left? A Kavanaugh equivalent? Oh yes Clinton framed by Lewinsky. Well, 2-1.