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F.D.A. Seizes Documents From Juul Headquarters
The Food and Drug Administration conducted a surprise inspection of the headquarters of the e-cigarette maker Juul Labs last Friday, carting away more than a thousand documents it said were related to the company's sales and marketing practices.
The move, announced on Tuesday, was seen as an attempt to ratchet up pressure on the company, which controls 72 percent of the e-cigarette market in the United States and whose products have become popular in high schools. The F.D.A. said it was particularly interested in whether Juul deliberately targeted minors as consumers.
"The new and highly disturbing data we have on youth use demonstrates plainly that e-cigarettes are creating an epidemic of regular nicotine use among teens," the F.D.A. said in a statement. "It is vital that we take action to understand and address the particular appeal of, and ease of access to, these products among kids."
Previously: Tobacco Roundup (U.S. to Crack Down on Tobacco, Electronic Cigarettes)
E-Cig Maker Juul Valued at $15-16 Billion
(Score: 2) by insanumingenium on Thursday October 04 2018, @04:10PM (4 children)
In this very article you complained about being restrained against your will.
But you support gun control because some people can't be trusted to handle guns responsibly.
In both cases, I can't see any way of assuring that we don't have any false positives.
And in both cases I am very worried about being able to weaponize the process itself. To take this position to absurdity, half the people here argue like they would lock in a nuthouse anyone they consider a SJW given half a chance; And I have no doubt that the other half would consider anyone they deem alt-right unfit to possess weapons.
What I fear is a return of the "House Un-American Activities Committee", and I don't want to grease their way by given them any additional legal processes to deprive citizens of rights.
Side question, would your ideal gun control legislation have really stopped Eric's father from owning and improperly storing a gun? Eric was obviously a child, he shouldn't have had access, but it doesn't sound as if he should be tried as an adult either. The storage was obviously not proper, but was that accident or intent, and how could you possibly prevent that before the fact?
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday October 04 2018, @07:26PM (3 children)
Even my staunch Republican father, who registered Libertarian when "Ronald Reagan betrayed the Republican ideal by raising taxes", when asked about the Un-American Activities Committee by my father quietly, quite sternly replied "It was unconstitutional".
Eric was nine at the time - young enough not to be trusted with an un-supervised gun, but old enough that by then his father should have already instructed him in gun safety.
"lock SJWs in a nuthouse": the Soviets actually did so with political dissidents starting around the early eighties, when they realized they would get bad press were they to imprison or execute them.
Eric's father was a USAF fighter pilot, Eric himself was very much The Son Of A Fighter Pilot. I expect that's why Eric's dad wanted _me_ specifically to be his babysitter, as I was seventeen at the time, so in general Eric really did respect my authority.
California and I expect some other states made it a felony for a parent's failure to secure a gun to lead to their child's injury or death. That is, to store a gun insecurely wasn't a crime in itself, but were a child to shoot themselves with it, at that point the parent would be guilty of unsafe storage.
There is a ballot proposition in Oregon right now - to be voted on in November - that will require gun safety instructions in public schools. The left - almost all of Portland's population, but almost none of the rest of the state's - heavily opposes it as they expect it will result in greater opposition to gun regulation.
But I personally am very strongly in favor of gun safety being taught in the schools. That Gun Safety Card I mentioned, I got that in seventh grade PE, they even set up a target range in the gym as it was cold outside.
What's more, I think that to teach gun safety in gang-ridden inner cities would go a long ways towards reducing gun violence. Just a couple days ago a young father was killed by the police in downtown Portland, when they stumbled upon a shootout between that young father and several other young men.
It's quite common for drug gang members as well as those who merely think looking like a ganger member is cool to own big, powerful guns as well as to flaunt them publicly, to pose with them for photos and so on.
Were they all taught proper gun safety, I expect that at least some of them, if not actually choosing not to own a gun, wouldn't carry guns with them everywhere they go, and so wouldn't open fire on some other gang member just because he happens to be a member of a different gang.
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(Score: 2) by insanumingenium on Thursday October 04 2018, @09:03PM (1 child)
It is easy to condemn it after the fact, that but is very much something that happened in living memory, and I have no reason to believe it couldn't happen again. So I would rather not have, say, an established secret court they can issue classified subpoenas, or any other process which would make it easy to disenfranchise anyone of any of their rights.
Gun safety in school seems like common sense to me, though you know what they say about common sense. Sadly I can also see where it would be a political lever arguing over whether the curriculum needs graphic gunshot wound photos or is better spent on a discussion of the "proper" interpretation of the 2nd amendment. That might just be my misanthropy acting up again.
I don't know if your conclusion that it will lead to gang members carrying less guns has any merit at all. I would love for you to be right, I just don't think it is such an obvious consequence. What it might do is prevent some of the stupid accidents while posing with guns that make the news. Side note, why does is seem it always a gang banger or a cop (or, my favorite favorite, gun safety instructor) that seems to get reported on having accidentally shot themselves.
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday October 04 2018, @09:20PM
A while back some cluebot was awarded the Darwin for having attempted to shoot someone, then upon his round failing to discharge, looked straight down the barrel so as to ascertain why.
While not an actual Darwin Laureate, some guy was using his gun's flashlight to illuminate the keyhole in his door, then shot his own finger off.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 06 2018, @01:55PM
"What's more, I think that to teach gun safety in gang-ridden inner cities would go a long ways towards reducing gun violence. Just a couple days ago a young father was killed by the police in downtown Portland, when they stumbled upon a shootout between that young father and several other young men.
It's quite common for drug gang members as well as those who merely think looking like a ganger member is cool to own big, powerful guns as well as to flaunt them publicly, to pose with them for photos and so on.
Were they all taught proper gun safety, I expect that at least some of them, if not actually choosing not to own a gun, wouldn't carry guns with them everywhere they go, and so wouldn't open fire on some other gang member just because he happens to be a member of a different gang."
this is so stupid it seems like a troll.