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A limo crash in New York has killed 20 people. The vehicle sped downhill towards an intersection of two highways, hit a stop sign, and crashed into a parked SUV. Two nearby pedestrians were also struck and killed:
[Read the latest: A passenger expressed concern about the limo shortly before the crash.]
The 17 friends had all piled into a white stretch limousine for what was supposed to have been a birthday celebration at an upstate New York brewery. But they never reached their destination. [...] The crash killed all 18 occupants of the limousine, including the driver, as well as two pedestrians, in an accident that left deep tire tracks in the ground and the small town about 40 miles west of Albany reeling.
[...] In an afternoon news conference outside Albany, the State Police offered few details about the accident, though Christopher Fiore, first deputy superintendent of the State Police, said that the limousine had been licensed in New York. Its driver was required to wear a seatbelt; its passengers in the back were not, he said. Only one person inside the limousine apparently survived the initial impact; that person later died after being flown in a helicopter to an Albany hospital.
Stretch limousines are modified after manufacturing and are generally not subject to the same safety regulations that are imposed on the protective structures for passenger cars. Such oversized vehicles have been involved in tragic accidents in New York before: In 2015, a limo carrying a bridal party of eight women crashed with a pickup truck in Cutchogue, N.Y., killing four people.
Further details show that the ride should never have happened:
The modified limo that crashed and killed 20 people wasn't even supposed to be on the road, New York's governor said Monday. On top of that, the driver "did not have the appropriate driver's license to be operating that vehicle," Gov. Andrew Cuomo said. The startling revelations bring more anguish to those grieving the deaths of 20 people in the quaint town of Schoharie. [...] "That vehicle was inspected by the New York State Department of Transportation last month and failed inspection and was not supposed to be on the road," Cuomo said.
A relatively local paper out of Albany, NY — The Times Union — has additional information on the crash. The intersection lies at the bottom of a hill on a road with a 50 mph (~85 kph) speed limit. There have been several accidents there before, some involving tractor trailers.
(Score: 2) by urza9814 on Tuesday October 09 2018, @06:38PM (1 child)
The difference is literal tons* of inertia. Ever been on a bus that hit something? I was in a bus that hit a deer once, badly enough that the driver had to pull over to remove some of it from the front grill. That was on an interstate highway, probably around 55+MPH. I wasn't aware that we'd hit anything until after we pulled over to stop. Hitting a deer in a car without a seatbelt can throw you right through the front windshield; but hit that same deer in a bus and you'd barely spill your drink. You *might* fall over if you're walking down the aisle and not holding on to the seats or anything but I doubt you'd be injured all that badly.
Granted, if you drive off a cliff or ram into a *really strong* brick wall you're still dead, but I don't think seatbelts would make much of a difference in that situation. Otherwise, there's not a hell of a lot on the roads that can cause a bus to come to a fast enough stop to actually throw people from their seats, so there's not as much reason to need a belt. A limo ain't a bus though...those things should probably have seatbelts. The modifications they make don't add anywhere near the amount of mass that you'd find on a bus.
* Here's the numbers:
My 4 door sedan's "curb weight": 3,500 lbs
Curb weight of some random stretch limo I found online: 4,500 lbs
Curb weight of a passenger bus: 40,000 lbs
My car: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_G6 [wikipedia.org]
The limo: https://www.uship.com/shipment/2007-Lincoln-Town-Car-120-stretch-limo-2/140576215/ [uship.com]
The bus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCI_102DL3_%26_D4500 [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 1) by nitehawk214 on Tuesday October 09 2018, @06:59PM
That's a very interesting point. Though in the article's case, it was a limo in a severe state of disrepair hitting a parked car and pedestrians. I expect a party bus in a similar state of disrepair would be just as dangerous.
A 20 passenger bus would be closer to 10,000 lbs. Though I think the real advantage would be that it is actually designed to be a vehicle instead of just cut up with a sawzall like a limo with no regard to safety.
Granted, I don't think I would board a limo or a party bus that would be doing highway speeds.
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