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posted by martyb on Friday October 12 2018, @11:18PM   Printer-friendly

Turkey 'has recording proving Saudi murder'

Turkish officials have audio and video evidence that shows missing Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi was tortured and killed inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, the BBC has learned.

Mr Khashoggi, a critic of the Saudi government, has not been seen since he entered the building on 2 October.

Turkish intelligence had "documented evidence" of the murder, a source close to the investigation said.

Saudi Arabia denies the allegations. It says the journalist left the building.

Jamal Khashoggi's disappearance and reported death have prompted international outrage and dented business confidence in Saudi Arabia. Tycoon Sir Richard Branson has halted talks over $1bn Saudi investment in Virgin space firms and several top business leaders have pulled out of a Saudi investment conference later this month.

Also at CNN.

See also: CNBC withdraws from Saudi conference over concerns about journalist Jamal Khashoggi's disappearance


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by PocketSizeSUn on Saturday October 13 2018, @03:25AM (11 children)

    by PocketSizeSUn (5340) on Saturday October 13 2018, @03:25AM (#748160)

    ... leaving the Dalai Lama in charge.

    Perhaps you are unaware .. but I think the China would likely launch everything they have at the US .. were the Dalai Lama in charge. His existence is only tolerated by China while he has no formal authority.

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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Saturday October 13 2018, @06:20AM (10 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 13 2018, @06:20AM (#748192) Journal

    Not to mention that Dolly Llama represents an oppressive regime. We've glamorized the old regime, and idolized the current Dalai Lama, but any right or left thinking American would oppose the system he represents. The only thing that makes the Dalai palatable, is the fact that China hates him so.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 13 2018, @08:35AM (8 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 13 2018, @08:35AM (#748222)

      They used to saw off men's legs above the knee for theft in tibet, up until the chinese communist took over.

      Kinda like what happened to the saudi guy

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Saturday October 13 2018, @09:04AM (5 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 13 2018, @09:04AM (#748232) Journal

        I'm usually not one to promote the Chinese, or their form of government. But, one of China's talking points is that Tibet had no hospitals, until China built them. That talking point isn't entirely accurate - the priests and the wealthy had pretty decent medical care. But the peasants had none of that. An injured peasant was as easily disposed of as an injured dog, or mule. No medical care for the common folk. So, the talking point isn't far wrong - Tibet had no hospitals, as we think of them.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 13 2018, @09:23AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 13 2018, @09:23AM (#748239)

          Was it wrong to dismember tibetans alive?

          Was it wrong to dismember saudis alive?

          • (Score: 3, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Saturday October 13 2018, @11:53AM

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 13 2018, @11:53AM (#748271) Journal

            Is it wrong to dismember Anonymous Cowards alive?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 13 2018, @05:25PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 13 2018, @05:25PM (#748351)

          I don't know where you got those talking points but they are bs and as someone who has lived among Tibetan people let me tell you it is a complete lie.

          Wherever you read those, now you should know not to trust those sources.

          Btw, Tibetan peasants had plenty access to traditional Tibetan medical system. Western medicine? No they didn't, cause they were peasants and in Tibet. But Tibetan doctors were are still not only super cheap they are almost free and run hospitals on charity, according to Tibetan tradition. They are also very well run, and have quite a repute for treatment of terminal diseases, whether ill founded or not.

          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday October 13 2018, @05:58PM (1 child)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 13 2018, @05:58PM (#748355) Journal

            Interesting - but - who is AC? And, why should I believe AC?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 14 2018, @01:40PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 14 2018, @01:40PM (#748601)

              Don't believe anyone except your own ability to be completely manipulated, and don't spew nonsense unless you have seen something with your own eyes. Not so hard to be judgmental, you know, just a lot less fun.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by driverless on Saturday October 13 2018, @10:05AM (1 child)

        by driverless (4770) on Saturday October 13 2018, @10:05AM (#748251)

        They used to saw off men's legs above the knee for theft in tibet, up until the chinese communist took over.

        At least that's what the same Chinese communists keep telling us, and I'm sure they're a perfectly reliable source on the subject of Tibet. It's a wonder the Tibetans didn't beg the Chinese to invade them, given how bad things must have been before, and how wonderful they've become since the Chinese took over.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 15 2018, @08:52AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 15 2018, @08:52AM (#748899)

          These are from English observations, not chinese.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday October 13 2018, @04:54PM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 13 2018, @04:54PM (#748345) Journal

      Not to mention that Dolly Llama represents an oppressive regime. We've glamorized the old regime, and idolized the current Dalai Lama, but any right or left thinking American would oppose the system he represents. The only thing that makes the Dalai palatable, is the fact that China hates him so.

      Well, that was then. Now, China is the oppressive regime in Tibet now. And I certainly wouldn't trust Chinese propaganda on how bad the Tibetans were.

      After all, that would be like the US bragging about how much better Native Americans have it now that the US Department of the Interior has brought civilization to the savages.